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Afghans sheltered SEAL from Taliban
CNN ^ | 11 July 2005

Posted on 07/11/2005 11:52:58 AM PDT by Lorianne

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To: Echo Talon
I'd be nice if you started hearing stories of the moderate ones killing the terrorists wouldn't it? Not holdin' my breath

You hear about Iraqis beating them to death when they can get them alone. There was also a story the other day of the village taking a couple of them down and hanging them.

61 posted on 07/11/2005 2:06:18 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Kretek
[ If true then 99% of muslims are BAD muslims only 1% are Good muslims.. The Quran supports the 1%... NOT the 99%.. Prove it. Post your documented citations. ]

O.K...

Apostasy(leaving Islam) is punishable by death. Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Surah Vol. 9:57

The majority of people in hell are women. Mohammed said, "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women. " SURAH..Vol. 1:28, 301; & Vol. 2:161; & Vol. 7:124

A Muslim must not be killed if he kills a non-Muslim. Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir {non-believer}". Sura Vol. 9:50

SURAH(Koran)-->>Torment to Non-believers->4.56 *Only Islam Acceptable-> 3.85 * No friends from outsiders->3.118 *No friends with Jews, christians->5. 51 * No friends with non believers->4.144, 3.28 * No friends with parents/siblings if non-believers->IX.23 *Fight non-believers->9.123 * Kill non-believers->6.89

Qur'an tells to kill unbelievers in these surahs 9:5- :191-2-193-3:118-4:75,76-5:84-4:104-5:33-5:51-5:57-5:80. 81-8:12-8:13-8:14-8:50-8:65-9:23-9:38.39-9:42-9:49-9:73- 9:123-21:109-21:52-27:69.60-31:21-33:60.61

And in closeing....

(Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 516) Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out thrice, because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night."

62 posted on 07/11/2005 2:06:52 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Mylo

The Old Testament instructed the Jews to kill certain peoples totally when they were at war. It did not tell them to kill 'unbelievers' carte blanche. It told them not to put up with false teaching and false prophets among themselves, yes, and not to intermingle closely (e.g. marriage, etc. in essence allowing strong influence on oneself) with unbelievers.


63 posted on 07/11/2005 2:08:56 PM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: hosepipe

Kretek has met the Zot.


64 posted on 07/11/2005 2:09:22 PM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: hosepipe
Why separate sutras for 'no friends among Jews and Christians', and another one for 'no friends among the non believers'? Could it be that in the Koran Jews and Christians are not included among the 'non believers'?

What about showing mercy to the weak -vs- deliberately targeting the weak?
65 posted on 07/11/2005 2:10:12 PM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: Mylo

Yeah, I'm just saying "they could of been". Although I'm in full agreement with you that it is highly unlikely they were.


66 posted on 07/11/2005 2:13:09 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Kretek
It is not my religion that is tearing up jack with the world.

We are a military family and sending your loved ones to the battle field is not taking a stand?????????

And as for your comment on slavery, you have no idea what ethnic group that I belong to or any other thing about my views and activism.
67 posted on 07/11/2005 2:13:47 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: Mylo
[ It is also a bit presumptuous to say that 99% of a Billion people have less knowledge about what their holy book says than you. ]

The statistics were not mine.. if you would re-wind the thread..

My take is THIS...
Not all christians are christians.. and not all muslims are muslims..
You can put puppies in an oven in a muffinpan, but that don't make them Muffins..

Muslims faceing the <-sillyness of Islam, face challengeing their cultures and face being rejected by their familys, friends, and in some cases face death at the hands of those very same people....

Apostasy(leaving Islam) is punishable by death. Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Surah Vol. 9:57

Islam has a strong murderological base... ACT LIKE YOU BELIEVE IT OR DIE!...
cause if you don't die, you will be ostracized anyway..

68 posted on 07/11/2005 2:18:57 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Echo Talon

Who do you think the Iraqis and Afghans fighting along side our soldiers are killing?


69 posted on 07/11/2005 2:25:49 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Clara Lou
I'm wondering if the Afghan villagers will face reprisal because of this. It's world news now.

If the Taliban didn't have the numbers to force them to turn over the SEAL, then it would take a large number of Taliban to carry out any significant reprisals, and such a large number would draw a lot of attention from American forces (especially AC-130s).
70 posted on 07/11/2005 2:26:02 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: hosepipe
Oh, and Christians have NEVER killed someone for not believing the same way that they do (other than Jews, Abiginsians, Cathars, Heliocentrics, Pagans, and Protestants). This IN SPITE of what their book says, not because of it. Not all Christians are very Christian indeed.

But your still presumptuous and ignorant to say that a billion people don't understand a document they read daily; but that you who has read a few translated excerpts have more expertise than they.
71 posted on 07/11/2005 2:26:45 PM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: Echo Talon
Actually, there's a lot of Iraqi terrorists dieing at the hand of Iraqi police and commandos and being turned in by Iraqis with cellphones. I'm not quite a member of "kill 'em all," but close. However, we have Muslim friends and should cultivate more.
72 posted on 07/11/2005 2:35:02 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Admin Moderator
You should seriously consider setting up an agelimit for Freep membership.... allow only those above 21 years of age or atleast those having a college degree.

Freep would otherwise risk become a breeding ground for religious bigotry and hatred, rather than a champion of the conservative cause (yes, both are indeed mutually exclusive).

73 posted on 07/11/2005 2:36:45 PM PDT by VladimirX
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To: Mylo

I stated an opinion, which is what you do.

Your calling me a fool makes you an idiot. This is a discussion forum. I probably have better education and have a higher standard of living than you do. I am no fool, but you have proved to be a real idiot with that post.

Why don't you go play on the chat lines. If you like to just flame other members' opinion, you are worthless here and prime bait there. This is a place where people state opinions, and an opinion does not make one a fool.


74 posted on 07/11/2005 2:36:58 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The Republican'ts have no spine--they ALWAYS cave-in to the RATs.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

"I probably have better education"

Apparently not in English. It is 'I probably have A better education'.


75 posted on 07/11/2005 2:40:35 PM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: Mylo
Maybe only 1% are terrorist, but at least 10% are sympathetic. Compare to any national military - how many are soldiers? How many are supporting them (taxes, etc.) How many Germans were Nazis and what did we (and the Soviets) do to spare the "good Germans?" (Hint: Approximately equal to zero.)

Anyway, if they manage to nuke the US, maybe we'll have to stop trying to sort 'em out (they sure as heck ain't makin' the sortin' easy). But until then, I suppose we can get by just trying to hunt the bad guys.
76 posted on 07/11/2005 2:42:04 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Little Ray
Many of the Jews in the death camps were nominally German. Just as the many Iranian youths are stuck in the mullah's Iran that they have turned into a death camp. We didn't indiscriminately round up and punish Germans after the war either, there were specific war crimes charged and specific Nazi's prosecuted. During the war we firebombed Dresden (and Kurt Vonnegut who was a POW in Dresden at the time)and I realize from this example that in a war sometimes you gotta "break a few eggs". But we didn't try to fight Germany without any allies, heck we even made nice with Uncle Joe Stalin (befriending one devil to kill another devil doesn't make you an angel doing the Lords work).
77 posted on 07/11/2005 2:51:24 PM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
An education doesn't preclude one from being a fool; just look at Noam Chomsky.

A high standard of living doesn't preclude one from being a fool; just look at Paris Hilton.

Having an opinion does not make one a fool. But having a foolish opinion.....
78 posted on 07/11/2005 3:03:15 PM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: satchmodog9
Who do you think the Iraqis and Afghans fighting along side our soldiers are killing?

I'm talking more about the "good muslim" population as a whole attacking the terrorists NOT the iraqi/afghan police forces or their military.

80 posted on 07/11/2005 5:57:08 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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