Posted on 07/06/2005 10:50:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
Nobody was seriously injured in the tornado or downblast, whatever the heck it was. It took out power, a nursing home was evacuated and Home Depot was not part of the news by this morning.
Safe!
Terri is still in the paper and still on tv and I hear her name on the radio. Forgotten? Why are people still speaking her name? God Bless her. I think that she's a blessing and we will succeed. We will.
I'm okay and I feel that we are turning a corner in this fight against euthanasia. If we stick together and call the US Congress, and PRAY, we will win for the Schindlers.
I posted a first responder report from a scanner and then I followed with what the local news reported. The Publix is brand new and they built it right next to the Home Depot. I buy mulch at that Home Depot. I buy "oops" paint at that Home Depot. St. Pete is far from Ulmerton and Seminole Bvld. They were having another weather system down in St. Pete. Whatever it was, it blew over my neighborhood although we were in the bullseye of every weather report that was on tv. I got lots of phone calls because it looked like we were in it. We weren't but Publix/Home Depot were in it. Where do you think the parts of the mobile homes blew over to? Publix and Home Depot.
In the weather bullseye but nothing happened here. It went up the coast to the vicinity of the Sheriff's Dept. I moved here the day that Columbia blew up and the first year was normal. Subsequently, we've had all these hurricanes and this gusty thing last night. I have to keep going in the backyard to prop up my elm tree. It keeps leaning left from all the gusts lately and that's a no, no.
John Roberts is a Bushy and I shall try to restrain myself from having further comment on the matter.
"John Roberts advised Gov. Jeb Bush during the 2000 election stuff Bush v. Gore."
Perhaps John Roberts was duped in 2000. I was duped, until a few months ago myself.
Time will tell.
Posted on Thu, Jul. 21, 2005
Terri Schiavo case yields little legislative action
By Larry Fish
Inquirer Staff Writer
The drama of the Terri Schiavo case brought unprecedented attention to end-of-life issues from activists and lawmakers, but there has been relatively little legislative reaction in the 16 weeks since she died.
A handful of state laws, mostly dealing with peripheral matters, have resulted from the globally watched case and the passions it evoked. No federal legislation has resulted.
Any impact in the voting booth is still unknown.
The Schiavo effect "may be a very transitory one. It's hard to tell right now," said Charles Sabatino, director of the American Bar Association's committee on law and aging.
Polls taken in the spring showed that a majority of voters did not approve of political intervention into the case, giving lawmakers little incentive to revisit it.
For much of the 15 years that Terri Schiavo was in a vegetative state, her husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo, fought with her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, over her care.
Despite a last-minute bill passed by Congress before her death March 31, courts upheld Michael Schiavo's decision to withdraw his wife's feeding tube. An autopsy found that the original damage to her brain had been irreversible.
Her parents and their allies had contended that Terri Schiavo might respond to therapy, and that even without improvement her life should be sustained. Michael Schiavo said that his wife had no meaningful life, and that she had expressed a wish never to be kept alive in such circumstances.
The National Right to Life Committee, which backed the Schindlers, responded with proposed legislation that states could adopt in an effort to avoid the dispute that engulfed Schiavo.
The legislation would require doctors and hospital administrators to presume that all patients unable to speak for themselves would want to continue to receive fluid and nutrition, unless the patients had clear living wills stating otherwise.
That would be a major change from the law in most states, Sabatino said. "In virtually every state right now, there's a presumption of neutrality, if the person has not done an advanced directive," Sabatino said.
Doctors now take each case individually, he said, and make judgments based on the patient's condition and outlook and discussions with family members.
So far, he said, the National Right to Life Committee's proposal has made little headway.
"There are 10 or 11 states where it has been introduced, but it has not been adopted anywhere," Sabatino said. "There doesn't seem to be a tide toward approving it."
Dick Bennett, head of independent polling organization American Research Group Inc., based in Manchester, N.H., said legislators took note that a majority of voters disapproved of political intervention in the Schiavo case, and showed little appetite for changing existing law.
"I think probably most state legislators believe the laws that they have are sufficient," Bennett said. "Legislators don't want to touch it."
In June, the American Medical Association passed a resolution opposing the Right to Life proposal or any act that would "presume to prescribe the patient's preferences."
Sabatino said the bar association took no position on the proposal, but said that he was troubled by aspects of it.
The law would dictate care, he said, unless a patient had the foresight to have a written directive to do otherwise, and the medical situation would have to closely reflect what was in the directive.
"We don't have crystal balls, so we don't know how explicit you can be" in writing an advanced directive, Sabatino said.
The Right to Life Committee, based in Washington, did not respond to several requests for comment.
Apart from the committee's proposal, a few other pieces of state legislation have been inspired by the Schiavo case.
In Delaware, both houses passed legislation sponsored by Republican State Sen. Cathy Cloutier, who said she was moved to introduce it not only by the Schiavo case but also by her husband's death in 1998. The measure was signed into law earlier this month.
The law allows for a space on driver's licenses to note whether the holder has an advanced-care directive or living will, so emergency-room workers would be alerted.
Louisiana is home to one of the few other legislative acts traceable to the Schiavo case.
One argument made by the Schindlers' allies was that Michael Schiavo should not be allowed to act as legal guardian because he had begun a family with another woman.
The Louisiana bill would originally have prevented adulterous spouses from making critical life decisions in those circumstances. As passed, the Louisiana law bars a violent husband from making end-of-life decisions if he is responsible for his wife's medical condition.
If the legislative record is sparse, the electoral impact is still unclear.
Polls at the time of Terri Schiavo's death showed most voters disapproved of Congress' efforts to intervene.
Earlier this month, Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean said that would be a weapon used against Republicans next year, especially against House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas and Senate Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee.
The issue might also reverberate in a handful of state-level elections. Randall Terry, the former head of the antiabortion group Operation Rescue and a highly visible Schindler spokesman, has said he plans to run in a Republican primary against a Florida state senator who did not support Terry's views.
FV SAYS: Did you notice that none of these journalists EVER ASK THE DISABLED COMMUNITY what they think about the Schiavo "effect"? It seems to me that this is about them. To see that there's even a term called the "Schiavo effect" shows me that Terri will not ever be forgotten. I dare a journalist to contact Diane Coleman, J.D. of www.notdeadyet.org. She is in touch with approx. 25 disabled orgs in the U.S. and around the world. They won't interview her but they should.
Charlie Crist already loused up his campaign 2006. New at TEJ: http://www.theempirejournal.com/
Wonder why? Usually, the NWS waits for damage reports to measure a tornado's strength. I'm guessing someone was measuring wind speeds when it hit.
It was right on the Sheriff's Dept. front doorstep or did the fire dept. probably measure the wind speed when they got there?
Un-bleeping-believable!! What in the world is going on here? Home of the mob? Unreal!!!!!
See #1450 Crist accepted campaign donations before he had a treasurer among other things. I wonder how much Donald Trump donated to Crist that Crist will have to return??? Trump held a fundraiser in Manhattan for Crist. Crist can't raise funds in Florida and has to go to New York to get cash? Crist needs the Trumpster because???
Tom Gallagher (R) for Governor of Florida.
I don't think TG is connected the way Crist is, or the way Jim King is either.
If Tom Gallagher isn't the next governor, get ready for anything and of course, keep praying. We'll need it. I'm being perfectly honest. Crist is a weak link. I wouldn't feel safe if he was governor. Not at all.
Trump is building a giant condo tower in Tampa. It's a real ugly bldg in the drawings.
How long have you been freeping? I was posting and I noted exactly what my source was. It happens all the time at FR. I didn't say I was a meteorologist, gollee. This is a forum, not the NOAA.
But, the worst lightning strikes imo are in Pinellas. I almost got struck last year at the post office. I'm sure some of my detractors are saying "darn" that I'm still here. Lightning strikes are worse imo, especially when the sun is out and there's no sign of stormy weather. People get blown out of their tennis shoes here. Ask your relative about that.
FV, Don't give up on John Roberts yet. He has a good background. I am far more concerned about the next appointee and really wonder if that will be a more moderate, plunging us back into what we have now.
What I suspect is that we will all be tickled pink at Roberts, a real good bone tossed to us and then a moderate will slip in without our grasping the implication, and neutralize any perceived gains.
In the case of John Roberts, he was practically a kid, raised in a good Catholic environment when he wound up in the Reagan White House. Clarence Thomas at this same time was a White House Coordinator and he turned out OK. The real Reagan people did fine. I would guess he was too young to have the firm imprints of Bush identity and most likely benefited from the Reagan environment anyway. I do not have direct knowledge of that formative period, but soon will. We will know soon enough.
We Reaganites tried to help out the Bush people at times and remained pretty much separate in identity. Nobody ever accused me of being a Bush person, certainly not the Bush people.
Right now, as Terri's legacy teaches us, the danger of Judicial Tyranny is paramount. I can think of nothing more important to our continuance as a nation created by our forefathers than the resettling of the Supreme Court and our Judiciary back into its intended role.
8mm
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