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Russia will equip Iranian Submarines with Missiles
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Posted on 07/06/2005 12:08:22 AM PDT by Srirangan

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To: bored at work

Are we still giving Russia aid in any form? Like Grain aid? If we are we need to stop and let them know that they should not be dealing with these regimes.


21 posted on 07/06/2005 3:49:14 AM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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To: Daaave

The 3M54E is an anti-ship cruise missile consisting of a launch stage, a winged low-flying subsonic cruise stage, and a terminal low-flying supersonic payload stage with a range of 20km. It can be fired from surface ship vertical launch tubes or 533mm submarine torpedo tubes. It has a 200kg payload with a range of 220km. The 3M54E1 is a smaller version that does not have the third supersonic stage, but it has a longer range (300km) and a heavier payload (400kg).

22 posted on 07/06/2005 3:52:28 AM PDT by Daaave ("He say you Blade Runner.")
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To: Randi Papadoo; Daaave

These subs & missiles are anything but crap.The subs are very quiet diesel electrics,rather well suited for operations in the Straits of Hormuz & Arabian Sea.

How many countries operate sub-launched anti-ship missiles with a range of 200-300kms???Only a handful & these Klub missiles reportedly will have a supersonic terminal stage,which will make their effect on impact far more deadly.


23 posted on 07/06/2005 4:28:49 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: taxesareforever

Precisely why we've tightened the noose around Vladimir, i.e. with Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Albania, and Hungary joining NATO. Also, we have US forces stationed in Uzbekistan, Krygastan (spelling), Tajikistan, and Georgia. How do you like that Vladimir, you Bolshevik!


24 posted on 07/06/2005 4:33:21 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: moose2004

Hmm,well some (pretty influential) folks in NATO like Germany,Spain & Italy seem to be tilting towards the Russian!!!Russia operates an airbase in kyrgyzstan( a few miles from the American installation) & has very very strong security ties with Tajikistan(including a small airbase) & Uzbekistan.Anyone will tell you that the US was able to secure facilities in the region for the Afghan war because the Russians didn't explicitly mind it & also because they themselves had great influence there.


25 posted on 07/06/2005 4:41:34 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: RoyalsFan

welcome to the real world.
While the U.S keeps giving russia aid.


26 posted on 07/06/2005 4:56:40 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: DB

You're hired!


27 posted on 07/06/2005 5:17:20 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Iraq is the bug light for terrorists" (Mike McConnell 7/2/05))
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To: Flyer; Eaker; humblegunner; thackney; TheMom; pax_et_bonum; Xenalyte; Allegra

The term "iranian bubbleheads" comes to mind...

But then again I was always fond of keeping my head above water while we were on deployment anyway...

Those subs look like targets to me though...

These subs are not all they are cracked up to be...They can be dealt with very quickly and efficiently

Those "missles" may be capable, but they are not in capable hands to be a "real" threat...

Echhh, but whata I know??? Right??? hehehe


28 posted on 07/06/2005 5:25:30 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans)
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To: stevie_d_64
Those "missles" may be capable, but they are not in capable hands to be a "real" threat...

Errr...even to people who don't live real far from the Persian Gulf?

29 posted on 07/06/2005 5:31:34 AM PDT by Allegra (On the Rocks With Salt, Please...)
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To: Srirangan

Thanks a lot, Russia.


30 posted on 07/06/2005 5:31:45 AM PDT by meema
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To: SoIA-79
I can. Once a commie always a Commie.

This has nothing to do with communism or capitalism and everything to do with (perceived) national interest. Russia thinks that it will be more powerful in a world where the United States is weaker. Plenty of other countries believe the same thing. That's nationalism, not ideology, and while I don't necessarily agree with it, the solution isn't namecalling.

31 posted on 07/06/2005 6:04:44 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Or he could use the ME to sweep right through Europe, the lifelong Soviet dream.

Bwahahahaha. I'm going to step out on a limb and guess that... you've never been to Russia. Russia invading Europe in 2005? Warn me if they form an alliance with Canada, Monaco and Papua New Guinea, because then we'll really be in trouble.

32 posted on 07/06/2005 6:10:39 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Srirangan

The US will likely equip them with improvised water intakes.


33 posted on 07/06/2005 6:14:17 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: Srirangan
I guess 'pootie boy' has yet to make the connection between terrorist supporting Iran and Chechen (?) terrorist who murder school children. Eventually he will make the connection when a dirty bomb goes off in some Russian city.
34 posted on 07/06/2005 6:19:02 AM PDT by ghitma (MeClaudius)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Germany has reached out to the Russians during Schroeder's tenure, and I suspect so under pressure from the French, but that will stop in September with the election of Angela Merkel as Chancellor of Germany. She is the leader of the Christian Democrats (who will form the next governing coalition), and she has promised to rekindle relations with Washington and cool things a bit with Moscow. Also, I don't understand your comment about Italy, Berlusconi sent troops to Iraq, and he is a great friend of the US. Spain, yes, you're correct here, Zapatoro has cooled things with Washington in favor of Russia, France, Germany, and Brussels. As to the bases in Central Asia, of course the Russians have stronger influence there, it's their backyard. But it must be troubling to Putin that America has combat forces currently stationed in countries that border Russia, and that all the former members of the Warsaw Pact, with the obvious exception of the defunct Soviet Union, are now members of NATO.


35 posted on 07/06/2005 6:19:34 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: injin
I agree, although no one wants another war.

If we keep waiting they are going to have nukes and long range missiles as well as these subs.

Let's face it ... an attack is almost unavoidable in the near future.

36 posted on 07/06/2005 6:39:57 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Mo1
What the heck is wrong with those Russians

Are they nuts?

Yes.

37 posted on 07/06/2005 7:01:37 AM PDT by steveegg (The regularily-scheduled tagline will not be seen until the FReepathon is over. HURRY UP!!!)
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To: DB
I always wondered about submarine warfare. Although the Germans did wolf packs in WW2, the did not work in tandem with each other.

The way to nail a surface ship for a quick sink would be to fire from two points at once. The structural stress to the ship from getting hit both port and starboard within a few seconds of each other should crack the hull wide open. No time to radio out.

As for under sea, you are correct. Lay on the bottom and wait.
38 posted on 07/06/2005 7:29:24 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy since 1992!)
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To: Randi Papadoo
Those subs and those missles are crap.I

Ditto. This is much to do about nothing. Putin is just taking their money --suckers-- selling 3rd rate goods. The subs are loud, equipment is crappy, and the Iranian Navy aren't exactly known for their seafaring skills.

We'll know where everyone of them are at ALL times. Relax.

39 posted on 07/06/2005 7:32:30 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: Mo1

Russia seems to care only about Money and nothing else. Putin is a backstabber.


40 posted on 07/06/2005 7:34:06 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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