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U.S. struggles on China-war planning - top officer(finding a right mix)
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| 06/29/05
Posted on 06/29/2005 8:19:02 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; maui_hawaii; tallhappy; Dr. Marten; Jeff Head; Khurkris; hedgetrimmer; ...
To: TigerLikesRooster
Wow what a great message to broadcast to our enemy...
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posted on
06/29/2005 8:21:10 PM PDT
by
Stellar Dendrite
(FAKE conservatism is more dangerous than liberalism <<<---at least you know what you're gonna get!)
To: Stellar Dendrite
This sort of stuff used to be discussed only in "closed sessions"......the content and the political slant in the way this piece is written is exactly why.
To: TigerLikesRooster
Whatup with all these China/War stories...?
Nothing unusual is up with China, something else is going down.
Wonder what.
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posted on
06/29/2005 8:42:47 PM PDT
by
mmercier
(Incentives and power equations)
To: Stellar Dendrite
"Wow what a great message to broadcast to our enemy... "
And notice he had to struggle. All our troops struggle in Iraq and Afghanistan also. Our whole military constantly struggle. Our Marine, Airborne, Special Forces, SOPs, SOCs, all wake up each day and what do they do?
They struggle.
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posted on
06/29/2005 8:43:34 PM PDT
by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned)
To: TigerLikesRooster
How is he going to make airplanes without a domestic manufacturing base? Rubber bands and balsa wood?
To: mmercier
DOD is working on the new quadrennial defense review, so the Air Force/Navy have to justify their massive budget outlays. Think about it, what else does the Navy have if China isn't around? The Navy needs China, so that's why you are seeing all these scare stories.
Not saying we shouldn't worry about China, but some of the hysterical coverage over the last few days is ridiculous.
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posted on
06/29/2005 8:48:08 PM PDT
by
Mr.Clark
(From the darkness....I shall come)
To: Last Dakotan
Who said they were going to be planes?
The bombers are just standoff cruise missile and guided bomb platforms.
To: Marine_Uncle
Remember when Rumsfeld announced the Pentagon would have a department of disinformation? And then he said they disbanded it?
;)
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posted on
06/29/2005 8:50:58 PM PDT
by
ProudVet77
(NASCAR - Because it's the way Americans drive.)
To: Mr.Clark
Good answer.
Damn good answer.
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posted on
06/29/2005 8:52:18 PM PDT
by
mmercier
(Incentives and power equations)
To: Mr.Clark
"DOD is working on the new quadrennial defense review, so the Air Force/Navy have to justify their massive budget outlays. Think about it, what else does the Navy have if China isn't around? The Navy needs China, so that's why you are seeing all these scare stories. "
Sounds a little conspiratorial to me. We are being vigilant enought to reposition B2 Stealth Bombers and other naval and air power to the Pacific during a war in Southwest Asia...so maybe it's not such a conspiracy.
Vigilance is peace throught strength.
To: TigerLikesRooster
You must first have the will to defeat the enemy from
within....
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posted on
06/29/2005 9:02:05 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Just trying to get in touch with my inner tagline..got feelers out but not much luck so far)
To: rbmillerjr
Vigilance is peace throught strength. In other words... the more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war.
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posted on
06/29/2005 9:06:49 PM PDT
by
Prince Caspian
(Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
To: TigerLikesRooster
The first US 'Plan Orange' for war against Japan was written in 1919.
To: Marine_Uncle
Our whole military constantly struggles. Our Marine, Airborne, Special Forces, SOPs, SOCs, all wake up each day and what do they do? They struggle. ROFL! Good call!
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posted on
06/29/2005 9:08:57 PM PDT
by
Prince Caspian
(Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
To: ProudVet77
>> Remember when Rumsfeld announced the Pentagon would have a department of disinformation? And then he said they disbanded it?
How cool are these people...? Way cool.
One can only hope that there is a hand in this puppet.
Being a fan of myth makers, today I stand amazed at their sheer brilliance. And I also know for a near fact that they have never existed. They simply hire shitty writers.
The brilliance of the disinformation notion is that it manifests in individual minds with only a mere mention. Pattern recognition kicks in and soon you have black cobra gunships watching your poodle take a leak in the back yard.
I miss the days when I could believe.
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posted on
06/29/2005 9:09:50 PM PDT
by
mmercier
(Incentives and power equations)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Oops, my bad. Make that
1897.
To: rbmillerjr
Not suggesting its a conspiracy, just service loyalty. If you're a Navy admiral, you want your service to grow and gain better funding. After all, as the admirals would remind you, what is good for the Navy is good for America. Getting this kind of support is growing increasingly difficult considering A) GWOT is mostly an Army/Marine show and B) Iraq is sucking up defense money like a Hoover. So how do you overcome these problems? Simply leak your "concerns" over the growing Chinese naval threat. People like Bill Gertz dutifully listen and push out hilariously alarmist stories, and there's a call for increased funding for the Navy.
That's not always a bad thing, I wouldn't mind seeing more money go the Navy. It's the way the world works, happened all the time in the Cold War. Whenever one of the services was facing cuts, they would instantly cling to some new "developing" Soviet capability that only they could counter. Those B-2's are much more likely to bomb targets in North Korea than in China.
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posted on
06/29/2005 9:18:41 PM PDT
by
Mr.Clark
(From the darkness....I shall come)
To: ProudVet77
"Remember when Rumsfeld announced the Pentagon would have a department of disinformation? And then he said they disbanded it? ;) "
I may have, not sure, I seem to be in information overload of lately. Couldn't even remember about the PHLANX gun.
But I think I get your point. heh heh.
Public consumption can be a real free for all.
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posted on
06/29/2005 9:28:11 PM PDT
by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned)
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