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Term paper about 'God' earns student failing grade
Daily Press (Victorville CA) ^ | LEROY STANDISH

Posted on 06/28/2005 7:23:53 AM PDT by zlala

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To: nmh

No, Thomas Paine was an atheist who claimed to be a deist.

Read up on him.

Thanks, it's already obvious that I know far more about him than you do. And I'm already familiar with Jefferson as well, so you can go deliver your elementary-school lectures somewhere else.

Jefferson was idiotic.

Riiiiiiiiight. I don't think I need to waste any more time with you.

341 posted on 06/29/2005 7:12:05 AM PDT by TheGhostOfTomPaine
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To: TheGhostOfTomPaine
YOU: Thanks, it's already obvious that I know far more about him than you do. And I'm already familiar with Jefferson as well, so you can go deliver your elementary-school lectures somewhere else.

LOL! Truth frightens you. Instead of offering an apology your pride and over grown ego won't permit it.

Me:Jefferson was idiotic.

You: Riiiiiiiiight. I don't think I need to waste any more time with you.

Me: Yes Jefferson was an illogical idiot. He believed in the Supernatural, a God, the Judeo Christian God but couldn't accept the ability and unbridled power of God to perform miracles. That's idiotic and hypocritical. Jefferson was so incredibly dense that he took the time to rewrite the Judeo Christian Bible eliminating ALL miracles because he just couldn't accept that. He was too full of himself. Yes, calling him an idiot was putting it kindly to what he really is.

It is better if you stop now rather than further embarrass yourself.
342 posted on 06/29/2005 12:09:03 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Thank you for that comment Zlala. This is the same teacher that is teaching his students not to call themselves Americans or refer to this country as America. I do not think what he is teaching is right. If all it cost me is an "F"; to protect freedom of speech for future students and to stop the anti Americanism rhetoric then so be it.
344 posted on 06/30/2005 7:16:16 PM PDT by bethany_1776 (I wrote the term paper and used the "G" word, Thanks for the support!)
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To: StrangerInParadise

As part of our grade we had to post all our work on a class blackboard, this is like a class website. I posted my paper on the site to get a peer review of my work prior to submitting my final draft. My paper was removed by the teacher along with my comments to my classmates regarding the matter at hand. not only was he trying to censor my work but denied me access others were afforded.


345 posted on 06/30/2005 7:24:30 PM PDT by bethany_1776 (I wrote the term paper and used the "G" word, Thanks for the support!)
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To: Brucifer

Brucifer bump!

;o)


346 posted on 06/30/2005 7:28:37 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (The New York Times ~ Now 89% Fact Free!)
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To: lowbridge

you mean the other 84% of American Christains? or the 96% of Americans that beleive in a Higher power?


347 posted on 06/30/2005 7:30:05 PM PDT by bethany_1776 (I wrote the term paper and used the "G" word, Thanks for the support!)
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To: FormerACLUmember

oops, I ment to direct that last comment to Former ACLUMember.


348 posted on 06/30/2005 7:33:19 PM PDT by bethany_1776 (I wrote the term paper and used the "G" word, Thanks for the support!)
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To: orionblamblam
I did exactly what I set out to do. The teacher approved my topic, however, it was not until one week before my final paper was due that I was told if I used the “G“ word I would receive a failing grade. I was not going to censor five weeks of research and writing to exclude the very word that my paper revolved around.
349 posted on 06/30/2005 7:38:50 PM PDT by bethany_1776 (I wrote the term paper and used the "G" word, Thanks for the support!)
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To: kpp_kpp

I can get as creative as the next guy, however, in God We Trust is our nations motto. The phrase is on our money. God is celebrated by government office closures on religious holidays. God is honored in our pledge to the flag and in our National Anthem( 4th verse). God is a part of our culture. I could have substituted the word GOD but I felt it would compromise the integrity of the paper. Whether you believe in God is irrelevant. No one should have to censor the truth about how millions of people feel to appease anyone.


350 posted on 06/30/2005 8:13:14 PM PDT by bethany_1776 (I wrote the term paper and used the "G" word, Thanks for the support!)
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To: bethany_1776

> in God We Trust is our nations motto

"E Pluribus Unum," thank-you-very-much.


351 posted on 06/30/2005 9:42:35 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: bethany_1776

> The teacher approved my topic, however, it was not until one week before my final paper was due that I was told if I used the “G“ word I would receive a failing grade.

Wel, now, that's different.

However, a find-and-replace of "God" with "Redacted" or "Expurgated" or "Consored" would have been easy, funny, appropriate and A-worthy.


352 posted on 06/30/2005 9:45:58 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: rface

I would be happy to share my paper with you. send me an e-mail and i will forward it: bethany_1776@yahoo.com


353 posted on 06/30/2005 9:48:43 PM PDT by bethany_1776 (I wrote the term paper and used the "G" word, Thanks for the support!)
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To: zlala
"I don't loose my First Amendment rights when I walk into that college."

For the 453rd time, the word is L-O-S-E. I would assume that basic English is still taught to journalism students. Maybe they could squeeze it in after their "The Ignorant Masses" and "How to Shape Public Opinion" classes.

354 posted on 06/30/2005 9:59:16 PM PDT by cincinnati65 (Just up the road a piece.......)
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To: zlala

This reminds me of the English teacher I had in high school, who wanted to study a couple of books of the Bible as literature, and didn't want to get into "religious discussions". Yeah, that makes sense. Not like the Bible has anything to do with religion.
She was certainly a very intelligent woman, otherwise. I could only assume that this ridiculous assignment revealed the mind of a leftist.


355 posted on 06/30/2005 11:25:03 PM PDT by Nevermore (Mad as Zell)
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To: bethany_1776

welcome to fr.

the poorly written news article had implied differently:

"Hauf's teacher approved her term paper topic — Religion and its Place within the Government — on one condition: Don't use the word God."

...

"Hauf acknowledges she knew her teacher's condition for writing the paper"


356 posted on 07/01/2005 4:17:38 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: longtermmemmory
This extraction of God from public life is just as much a religion (cult?) as any other belief.

What?! The absense of religion is in no way a religion.
357 posted on 07/01/2005 3:47:22 PM PDT by Vive ut Vivas
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To: SpringheelJack
People are missing the point. It wasn't that she couldn't mention the word "god", it was this: "No mention of big 'G' gods, i.e., one, true god argumentation."

The problem wasn't with the objective use of the word "god", it was implying there is one true "God" or something of that nature. Obviously nobody's in trouble for mentioning a specific word, it's referring to religion as if it were fact.
358 posted on 07/01/2005 3:57:50 PM PDT by Vive ut Vivas
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To: WildHorseCrash

That is how I interpreted the article, as well.


359 posted on 07/01/2005 4:09:40 PM PDT by Vive ut Vivas
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To: Vive ut Vivas

atheism has been deemed a religion


360 posted on 07/02/2005 7:15:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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