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Man with inert hand grenade fatally shot at federal courthouse [More of the Seattle story.]
Associated Press by way of Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 20JUN05 | CURT WOODWARD

Posted on 06/21/2005 12:22:53 PM PDT by familyop

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Here's a counter-post to the white noise being disseminated by other news agencies, except that we aren't hearing his side of the story.
1 posted on 06/21/2005 12:22:54 PM PDT by familyop
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I really don't care what his side of the story was.

What he did was unacceptable and he is responsible for his own death.

2 posted on 06/21/2005 12:25:50 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: longtermmemmory; shaggy eel; Fiddlstix; Alia
Ping! ...another one. The media cover noise is running against it. Sort the truth from between the lines of the ex-wife's side of the story.

"Ex-wife Susan Calhoun said Manley grew bitter and quit a high-paying job when, after their 1990 divorce, a court ordered him to make child support payments for their three children. The children are now grown and those payments were no longer required, the television station reported.

"It was really about the money," she told KING. " 'Don't tell me what to do with my money.' "

And BTW, the heavy iron, hollow grenades with the hole in the bottom (for inserting little loads that pop) are not "drilled out" live grenades. They were always harmless practice grenades.
3 posted on 06/21/2005 12:29:27 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: familyop

If he brought a grenade (even a fake one) to a federal building, that's about all the sides of the story we need to know. He brought his fate upon himself.


4 posted on 06/21/2005 12:31:29 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: wideawake
he is responsible for his own death

Of course he was.

It was a suicide by cop.

5 posted on 06/21/2005 12:31:59 PM PDT by ASA Vet (McCain is more likely to run with Hillary than against her.)
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To: familyop

Was the frickin grenade blue?

If it wasn't then the cops were right on this one, but if it was blue they knew darn well it was fake.


6 posted on 06/21/2005 12:32:18 PM PDT by American_Centurion
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To: familyop

The government actually expected him to provide monetary support for the three children that he fathered! Stupid bureaucrats...everybody knows that a man who fathers three children has every right to abandon them once they've dropped from the womb and he's decided it's time to move on.


7 posted on 06/21/2005 12:32:39 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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I don't think we should hold the LEO's to be able to differentiate a fake vs. live hand grenade in a situation such as this. He had no business bringing this to a public building; the responsibility of his death is solely upon himself.


8 posted on 06/21/2005 12:33:45 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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SEATTLE -- A man carrying an unusable hand grenade and a sheaf of papers including a "living will" was fatally shot by police Monday in the lobby of the downtown federal courthouse, authorities said.





he ask for help, and got it


9 posted on 06/21/2005 12:33:58 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: familyop

Why do I keep thinking of the old adage of " Don't bring a knife to a gun fight"......


10 posted on 06/21/2005 12:34:09 PM PDT by jmq
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To: familyop

Was he a Freeper?


12 posted on 06/21/2005 12:34:43 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: American_Centurion
Of course. Of course.

What's your next comment - that the police committed an illegal preemptive attack in order to benefit their cronies in the US oil industry?

13 posted on 06/21/2005 12:35:20 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: American_Centurion; 68skylark

I'm not blaming the police on the grenade issue. I was commenting on how incompetent the journalists are to do hard news.


14 posted on 06/21/2005 12:35:33 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: familyop
Suicide by cop.

So9

15 posted on 06/21/2005 12:35:48 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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If he brought a grenade (even a fake one) to a federal building, that's about all the sides of the story we need to know.

It would be like ragging on the cops for shooting someone pointing an unloaded automatic at them.

16 posted on 06/21/2005 12:35:53 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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"With one shot, the man slumped over, and with the second shot, he slumped all the way over and his head ended up in his lap," Adams said.

Literally? I guess that explains how law enforcement knew immediately that he was dead.

17 posted on 06/21/2005 12:36:57 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: familyop
"I believe it's more of a global government frustration," Robertson said.

How soon before the MSM starts blaming global warming for frying his brain?
18 posted on 06/21/2005 12:36:58 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Shhhh!!! Don't you know that "real" conservatives don't believe in taking personal responsibility for their actions? You must be a Bushbot!!!


19 posted on 06/21/2005 12:37:07 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: ASA Vet
"It was a suicide by cop."

...exactly.
20 posted on 06/21/2005 12:37:08 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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