Posted on 06/21/2005 10:08:19 AM PDT by tallhappy
Deja Vu : Imperial Japan ??
Why does Bush want to have economic trade with Communist countries? Didn't we in FR excoriate John Kerry for rubbing elbows and posing for pictures with Vietnam officials?
This is the major news of the day -- a huge historic meeting. And it is ignored here.
I think it's part of a policy of getting serious about China. Viet historically don't care much for China. They're REALLY pushing the India relationship and it looks like Bush wants to pull Vietnam onto our side too despite the continuing political oppression there.
Exactly. But don't try to influence all the Bush-haters, they are too dense to see the subtlety in the strategery!
I guess we'll see if the agreement on religion actually leads to improvement in that area.
"They're REALLY pushing the India relationship and it looks like Bush wants to pull Vietnam onto our side too despite the continuing political oppression there.
Exactly. But don't try to influence all the Bush-haters, they are too dense to see the subtlety in the strategery!"
I don't buy that. Bush is doing what Clinton did: Opening business with communists because that helps fill the pockets of Wall Street.
The war is over. Get over it.
What Kerry did, during the war, is unforgivable. What Bush does now, is unrelated.
..disagree and you are a Bush 'hater'....?
It's been said that the Vietnamese are the only people that strike fear into the Chinese.
Vietnam is a chess piece;important to the fute in Asia.
Thank you.
" ..disagree and you are a Bush 'hater'....?"
No.
"You Are Not Forgotten"...
Except by those eager to make a buck off more Far East communist labor.
*Congress to allow normal trade relations with Viet Nam WITHOUT full account of POW/MIA's
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b9bfd3117c9.htm
Posted on 09/09/2001 4:37:21 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
*Congress to allow normal trade relations with Viet Nam WITHOUT full account of POW/MIA's Thread 2
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b9d9fbe2cbf.htm
Posted on 09/10/2001 10:23:10 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
IMHO the genesis of restored relations under the Clinton regime and with McCrazy/Kerry support is water under the bridge.
Realistically and strategically, it's better to have VN on our side, with its 1,800 mile coastline on the South China Sea, its 80 million population, and for several other reasons.
Coaxing and handholding VN through the WTO process is key, because it forces the government to incrementally discard its Marxist economic practices and consequently its odious political practices as well.
VN is moving every year toward a more transparent government, I've been going there since 1996 and the differences (at least in Saigon) are dramatic and tangible.
Yes, the government does still suck - I wouldn't trust it as far as I could spit - but as old farts like Gen. Giap and his cronies die off, I think things will accelerate in a positive direction more rapidly.
The old guys are the only "true believers", and even the "communists" don't believe in communism anymore.
BTW, I was in Saigon in Nov. 2003 to see the USS Vandergrift dock at the Port Of Saigon, and to see US sailors taking shore leave over the several days they were there. It was a sight to behold.
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