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Rice Warns Israel: Don't Stop with Gaza; Don't Create "Facts on the Ground" East of Jerusalem
DOS ^ | June 17, 2005

Posted on 06/20/2005 9:16:03 AM PDT by robowombat

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To: timsbella

Radiotherapy may be in order..It would both be palliative and instructive!


61 posted on 06/20/2005 11:38:44 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Bella_Bru
I suppose then you also think the U.S. ought to give back our land to the Natives? Cali ought to go back to Mexico?

Nope...... Should we start settling Mexico to expand further..... No.

62 posted on 06/20/2005 11:39:41 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism

So Israel should compromise its security by handing over areas which help protect them? What brave moves do you suggest exactly? Keeping the areas acquired in 1967 have helped Israel strategically. Imagine if all the arabs could perch their weapons on the Golan? Please explain what you think Israel should do and what results you expect. I'm curious. You sound like the rest of the western world that thinks there is some possible negotiations to be had. Please explain what giving the Gaza to the filthy murderers who daily continue to attempt to infiltrate Israel with bombs and who regularly lob rockets into Gush Katif will accomplish. Remember the "Oslo Accords?" And that accomplished exactly what?


63 posted on 06/20/2005 11:41:34 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: sheik yerbouty

I'm rather partial to the sonic remedies they're employing. (Those nasty noise blasters.) Their kids don't get hurt and we don't look like baddies on the 6 o'clock news.

I'd pay to pump in high volume "Radio Free Klezmer" -- think we can set a deal with iTunes?


64 posted on 06/20/2005 11:44:33 AM PDT by timsbella
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To: sheik yerbouty

Absolutely. And if you have an American President who is owned by them you feel so much sadder for all the wasted American casualties in Iraq.


65 posted on 06/20/2005 11:46:50 AM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Lets have a pool.

Israel withdraws from Gaza. Attacks on Israel emanate from Gaza.

How much time between the first attack and a State Dept/ White House statement asking Israel to show restraint?


66 posted on 06/20/2005 11:49:30 AM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: Sabramerican

The 'rats would be worse. i hope the President will not morph into his father, who snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory..


67 posted on 06/20/2005 11:49:33 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: timsbella

We had a noxious neighbor years ago in an adjacent apartment. They would leave their alarm clock going off all weekend.Unfortunately, we shared a common wall. My wife turned on a Korean cable channel and turned it up until 10PM every day. They soon left.


68 posted on 06/20/2005 11:52:25 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty

How would they be worse vis a vis terrorism and Israel?

I have only one Presidential vote left in me for- Giuliani- the man who told the Saudis where to stick their money.


69 posted on 06/20/2005 11:55:06 AM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: sheik yerbouty

I agree. A grave mistake educated/enlighted Jews have made time and time again is to trust the intellectuals/liberals. Look at Germany and how integrated and secular the Jews were. When they were carted to the camps it mattered not that they rubbed elbows with the elite. It mattered only that they were born Jews, even if they didn't practice their faith. Think of Freud's daughter who kept reminding her captors who she was, and as such she was marched to the front of the firing line.

Now think of who send in the fighter planes in 1973 - it wasn't a democrat.

I have some hope that Bush jr's faith will prove itself.

The Kerry's and Albright's of the world would rather assimilate forget and forsake us.


70 posted on 06/20/2005 11:57:21 AM PDT by timsbella
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To: Sabramerican

AND, Condi is already putting east Jerusalem on the table. How long before the Kotel gets torn down (G-d forbid) like Joseph's tomb?


71 posted on 06/20/2005 12:00:37 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Sabramerican
How much time between the first attack and a State Dept/ White House statement asking Israel to show restraint?

That's a given. And Israel will hopefully put us on "ignore".

72 posted on 06/20/2005 12:00:59 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: sheik yerbouty

You married a brilliant woman ;)


73 posted on 06/20/2005 12:01:41 PM PDT by timsbella
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To: Realism
There are some people that share your viewpoint and also think of the U.S. in the same fashion.

If you were Israeli, you'd be just as offended as we are here when someone suggests we give up our land.

74 posted on 06/20/2005 12:06:56 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: robowombat

Yes. Al Jazeera was running some quotes of Rice's comments along with a photo of her and was rather proud of them. That's a long way to go to please western Europe after Rice's and the President's last visit there.


75 posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:03 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Please explain what you think Israel should do and what results you expect.

You want my version of the road map? I'm already getting plenty of heat here, I'm not sure if I should go into it.

76 posted on 06/20/2005 12:21:39 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism

Sure, I'm interested in your road map to peace. While I wait to see what happens when the Israeli government tries to remove my brothers and sisters from Gush Katif, I'd like to know what other ideas are out there besides flushing Israel down the toilet.


77 posted on 06/20/2005 12:25:06 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC
"And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it."

Zech. 12:3

78 posted on 06/20/2005 12:28:02 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Realism
You mean like this comment?

I have a very dim view of Israel as a U.S. ally. When compared with others such as Great Britain, Australia or Japan, Israel to me is very untrustworthy. Found here

79 posted on 06/20/2005 12:28:30 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: Realism

Do. Favour us with your vision. You feel the heat of frustration, but since you've come so far, why not share your solution?

Recall though, we've negotiated in good faith and have been repeatedly slapped.

We've given up land for peace.

We've never been the agressors, nor have we initiated a war.

We've given the Palis land and jobs and rights. We have treated them better than any other country they lived in prior. And in turn we have been sullied in the MSM.

We're waiting....roadmap please.


80 posted on 06/20/2005 12:31:22 PM PDT by timsbella
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