Posted on 06/19/2005 8:19:40 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Now I know where Jerry Springer gets his guests.
What is"force feed Terri forever"?
If I may hazard a guess, I reckon you mean the normal care that the home gave her for years. Liquid nutrition through a tube in her stomach. She lived for years like that. Add on that her real family - mom, dad, etc. wanted her out of that place so they could "force feed" her and love her until her time came to die.
Alienating 2/3rd of the Americans??? Who fricking cares? Read your history. Received wisdom is that only 1/3 of the colonists supported the revolution of 1776.
...According to Florida Statues, only the terminally ill (6 months or less to live), are allowed admittance to a hospice...
That is a standard Medicare requirment. No doctor in his right mind would have stated that Terri had 6 months or less to live. In fact she was in that Hospice for 5 years, and undoubtedly would have lived much longer.
Fraud and slow murder for money. Terri would be physical evidence of the fraud, were it proven that she was no longer declining, even under the most minimal of care.
Some coincidence that the lawyer (death goul Felos) who fought to put her to her untimely death once sat on the board of that Hospice.
Actually, she had much less than that.
Terri was placed in a hospice soon after Judge Greer ordered her feeding tube removed. She had every right to be there.
Who's fault was it that she remained there for five years? Who was filing lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit?
(Hint: It wasn't Michael, or Felos, or Judge Greer.)
"Whose fault was it that she remained there for 5 years"
Woodside Hospice is at fault since they accepted her with the feeding tube already in if they were billing Medicare. That would be fraud.
Medicare would not have accepted her for hospice because PVS is not a billable diagnosis.
Now, can you tell me if she was on Medicare, or did this come out of her own pocket?
I think there is a good chance it was the former, since Suncoast owes over 14 million in fraudulent Medicare charges.
If you can shed more light on that, have at it.
...Terri was placed in a hospice soon after Judge Greer ordered her feeding tube removed....
Show me where a court order to remove a feeding tube qualifies a patient for Hopice under Medicare guidelines.
Aren't court orders subject to appeal unless it is one from the U.S. Supreme Court?
Be mighty short sighted of our government (Medicare) to ignore that possibility, not to mention the Hospice.
In addition, to bill Medicare, it requires three signatures. The attending physician, the patient or legal guardian, and the Hospice.
Show me the proper signatures and then you can say she had every right to be there, as you claim.
I don't think you're going to be able to do that.
The hospice was picking up the bulk of her care. Medicaid covered the rest.
...The hospice was picking up the bulk of her care. Medicaid covered the rest...
Uh huh. And did the hospice pick up the bulk of her care from their own pocket, or from Terri's funds?
Medicaid doesn't pay for hospice. Medicaid doesn't pay for anything unless you have spent down your personal worth to practically nothing (thought they may have if fraud was being commited).
Show us the receipts of who paid for what.
From their own pocket.
"Medicaid doesn't pay for hospice"
Correct. Medicaid was paying for Terri's medications.
"Medicaid doesn't pay for anything unless you have spent down your personal worth to practically nothing (thought they may have if fraud was being commited)."
Terri's lawyers set up a special-needs trust which then allowed her to qualify.
"Show us the receipts of who paid for what."
I got your receipts right here.
Another question. Why did Judge Greer seal Terri's financial records from Florida State Officials? To my knowledge, they did ask for them.
...I got your receipts right here...
Oh, I see them now. Yeah right.
Tell you what, I'm willing to wait a while and see what goes down with Suncoast Hospice as far as them being legit, or frauding.
So far, it looks like they are frauding.
I'm not aware of any other times that he may have done this. What's your source on this?
"Mike Bell, a company spokesman, said the not-for-profit did not have to repay any money. The investigation, which involved several hospice care providers, "led to clarification and directions going forward," he said."
-- washingtonpost.com, 3-23-05
I going with "careless legit".
A living will is, like any other document. merely evidence of a present desire. We cannot write the future in advance.
I just read "Becoming Justice Blackmun," by Linda Greenhouse. What starles me is how smug the Court was in its thinking, that they had the right to overturn the abortion laws of more than 33 states because THEY represented "advanced" or "progressive" opinion. So sure of their role that they even overturned a new and liberal Georgia law because it did not for far enough. Then they went adhead and virtually dictated terms to all the state legislatures. Again and again they were surprised that the states resisted their "guidance" and did what they could to thwart them. Such is the attitude of the legal elite. They cannot conceive that they might be wrong, because everyone they know thinks as they do. Caiaphas was not more blind than they.
That you would force my family to bear the financial and emotional burden to care for my brain damaged body, all the time them knowing that I didn't want to live that way, is unconscionable.
The life insurance money, the retirement money, the savings account, all to pay for my children's education and a decent living for my wife -- gone. Gone to pay the lawyers, the hospital, and the hospice.
Thank God this is still America where I have the constitutional right to refuse medical treatment and to tell busybodies like you to go $%# off.
And what if your family wants to bear this burden? That's the heart of the Schiavo case.
DCF petitioned Greer to unseal the financial records for their investigation. He refused.
http://www.theempirejournal.com/614051_greer_seals_inventory_of.htm
I'm sure they would, but that's not the issue. The issue is my wish not to live in a brain damaged state with no hope of recovery. You would force me to do so, and place this burden on my family.
(Besides, we don't know for sure if the Schindlers would want to bear the burden without the $700,000, now do we?)
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