Posted on 06/17/2005 2:58:43 PM PDT by CHARLITE
That could be, since Graham has been a huge influence in his life. I would like Graham to elaborate more on this and see what he says. I know his son Franklin does not at all agree with this and has said so.
That is the world religion!
Muslims can still be muslims. Hindus can still be Hindu's, B'Hais can still be B'Hais. And Christians can still be Christians as long as they don't insist that Jesus is the ONLY way to God. You see, we all worship the same God, even our "Christian" president says so. Let's drop all our petty doctrinal differences and just get along.
I certainly didn't read anything about Jesus in the Initiative so I don't know where you came up with that. I am not defending the Initiative but I am criticizing those who say that this Initiative is forming a one world religion. If it is a one world religion, what is it and what do they believe in? Please, not opinion, but facts.
Some folks simply have NO clue whatsoever!
You must have overlooked my Post #35.
Maybe that is why you overlooked my Post #35.
Can Muslims still be Muslims if they don't say that Mohammed is the only way to God?
Secondly...If it is a one world religion, what is it and what do they believe in?
They "believe" many things and they are expressed in their Preamble, Purpose, and Principles. Even though they claim not to be a religion...(1. The URI is a bridge-building organization, not a religion.
...they put quite a bit of emphasis on the Earth as a living entity, not as an object. This, IMO at least, makes them worshippers of the Earth and that makes it a religion, despite their claims that they're not a religion.
I guess it all comes down to the definition of "religion". Since they give none one is left to speculate. Your specualtion may simply be different from mine much as your definition of religion may be different from theirs. I would say that there simplky are no easy answers to your questions. Believe as you will and I'll do the same.
I believe they're trying to install a world religion myself based upon "Earth worship".
Ok, we are on the same page. All I was saying is that I do not gather from their website that they are trying to establish a one religion world. However, I do not put any trust in them acting outside what their website states and maybe, just maybe they really do intend to try to make this a one religion world. However, I think that WND is stretching it to say that they are trying to establish this one world religion. Not to say we shouldn't be wary and keep cognizant of what is going on.
Not to say we shouldn't be wary and keep cognizant of what is going on.
I've been cognizant of it as long as Penn has been and wary of it for far longer. That is part of the reason I don't like the faith based initiatives. They're part and parcel with each other and a very bad move by the POTUS.
Then you also must be wary of the World Council of Churches. I'm not only wary of it I know that their mission isn't the spreading of the Gospel.
I am a conservative Catholic and have numerous conservative Catholics friends who believe you are right and this is precisely what is coming. Indeed, we already have the problem with the gay community pushing the media and the rest of society to accept instead of reject their life-style. "How can you Christians be so hard hearted and mean?"
Perhaps in a clumsy way President Bush made the same argument but I don't think it is what he believes. All politicians are opportunists, some worse than others. It could be that what President Bush believes in most right now is that a "form" of government will save the rest of the world in a geo-political sense. I don't think he believes it will get anyone to heaven.
In his effort to "avoid offending" those present he could be offending the God he claims to know, love and serve; one who has said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes unto the father, but through me."
WHo should he rather offend - his God or some exchange students?
Won't happen Lum, here is why....(Ask Abner)
Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
Acts 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
According to the article these are the President's words, right?
WHo should he rather offend - his God or some exchange students?
How does what he said offend God?
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes unto the father, but through me."
Jesus claimed to be God. Christianity is all-exclusive and claims that all other gods are false.
If Bush gives credence to other (false) gods, he risks offending the exclusive God that he claims to worship. I'm not asking you to believe Christianity, but it would be dishonest for Bush (or you) to claim that it teaches anything different
What makes you think he is giving credence to other gods. I think he IS speaking about God. He didn't even use, according to the article, the name muslims use-allah, he said an Almighty God. As I stated in another post the concept that God has had an influence in other religions is nothing new. Perhaps President Bush was simply expressing this belief.
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