Posted on 06/16/2005 11:28:48 AM PDT by kristinn
And this FOOL is my senator. (lower case deliberate.)
I heard him the first time.
Yuk!
Durbin just said it was wrong to compare WWII and Gitmo.
No apologies.
He says this treatment doesn't reflect our values. He keeps saying that this is how Stalin and Hitler treated their prisoners. But then he says that those victims DID get treated worse than these.
But then he said that our treatment of this prisoner was CLOSER to that of those despotic regimes than what our norm is.
Sen. Warner now cross-examining him on questioning and ripping him a new one...
LOL, I just realized Durbin reminds me of my EX husband..and for just those reasons that is why he is an EX.
Warner refutes Durbin's claim that this is "unrefuted". Warner says it is raw information, and a reasonable person would not take this report at face value.
Warner says that this use of this type of memo on the Senate floor is not normal for senate rules.
Says that if HE (Warner) was going to explore this issue, he wouldn't do it based on a single document. Seems to call Durbin a fool.
I'm glad they got Warner doing this. He isn't a right-winger.
Durbin says that since the Bush administration hasn't said anything about it, it HAS TO BE TRUE.
Warner responds that it is currently UNDER INVESTIGATION, and they wouldn't make a report before that.
All he is doing is blaming the information...it is his spin! How incredible.
Warner refutes Durbin's claim that this is "unrefuted". Warner says it is raw information, and a reasonable person would not take this report at face value.
Warner says that this use of this type of memo on the Senate floor is not normal for senate rules.
Says that if HE (Warner) was going to explore this issue, he wouldn't do it based on a single document. Seems to call Durbin a fool.
I'm glad they got Warner doing this. He isn't a right-winger.
Durbin says that since the Bush administration hasn't said anything about it, it HAS TO BE TRUE.
Warner responds that it is currently UNDER INVESTIGATION, and they wouldn't make a report before that.
Thank you Mitch!
>I wish somebody would ask Wilson WHO he made his report to. (Clue: he didn't.)<
To the best of my knowledge, the only formal, written report he submitted was to the NY Times ("What I Didn't Find In Africa").
No McConnell -- He doesn't care about the words of the FBI agent, but rather the words of the Senator. Going to quote Durbin back and ask if he means it.....
I think I hear it said this a.m. that they're going to run it on c-span 2 tomorrow evening.
But I will keep on checking, because c-span ALWAYS messes up their programing times...you can never count on something running when they say it will run.
Why does Durbin think that Pol Pot used such mild interrogation techniques?
Now he's saying "they did more than this, but they also did this (meaning repressive regimes).
By that statement, he could complain about our feeding the prisoners, because I bet that sometimes Stalin fed HIS prisoners as well.
Durbin is trying to backtrack without apologizing. He can't apologize, because the left is pulling his strings.
WARNER: THOSE WERE DEATH CAMPS!!!!!!
WARNER: "A most grevious misjudgement on your part"
What do you bet Durbin has NO IDEA what type of interrogation Stalin used in his death camps (if he did any investigating at all).
Durbin is trying to say "I wasn't comparing this to the Gulags, or death camps, I was comparing the interrogation techniques those regimes might have used in mild cases to what we do"
Of course, his actual words mentioned GULAGS!!!!
Warner is attacking him on the COMITY of the Senate. Durbin is saying that since he doesn't know a military person did this, so he wasn't attacking the military.
Again he says "If they don't deny, it must be true".
The only thing Warner is saying wrong is not saying that EVEN IF TRUE, Durbin's statements were out of line.
Now Durbin's off on DUE PROCESS. As if due process rights have anything to do with torture, or interrogation techniques.
Remember, we are talking about a couple of prisoners, maybe only one, kept TOO HOT and TOO COLD and forced to listen to RAP MUSIC.
Durbin's behavior and refusal to acknowledge what he has done and his weaseling is an embarrassment to say the least. It reveals him for what he is, an unscrupulous fool and idiot.
Why is Reid changing the subject?
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As for Conyers, I wonder if he's still working with the World Peace Council, the KGB front he met with during the Vietnam War and the Contra operation, still associated with Conyers' old contact Romesh Chandra.
Durbin just changed his words. He said now "you MIGHT assume" it was a murderous regime. I'm pretty sure his statement was "You WOULD believe", not "You MIGHT believe"
Here was his original statement: "you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis"
In his last comment he said "you Might believe".
He was sounding shaky as well.
Now Reid up, complaining that this is because Bush's poll numbers are down (note: FOX NEWS POLL : BUSH 48-43)
"Let's not focus on what he (Durbin) said".
Every time I hear Reid complain that they aren't getting work done, I wonder if the democrats can get away with that.
Reid cares for Warner "a great deal".
He uses that to back-hand Warner saying "He must be disturbed" that some defense bill hasn't been taken up.
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