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Frist says Schiavo case brought to a close by autopsy report
AP ^ | 6/16/05

Posted on 06/16/2005 9:36:04 AM PDT by ambrose

WASHINGTON Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist says the autopsy released yesterday on Terri Schiavo (SHY'-voh) brings a "very sad chapter to a close."

The surgeon had questioned Schiavo's diagnosis during the debate last March on whether to remove her feeding tube. But he told A-B-C this morning the report shows Schiavo had devastating brain damage.

Frist says he never made his own diagnosis in the case. But he did argue there wasn't enough information on the woman's condition to justify removing her feeding tube. Frist helped push through emergency legislation aimed at prolonging Schiavo's life by allowing her case to be reviewed in federal court.

Commenting on C-B-S, Frist says the pathology shows the diagnosis was "exactly right," and he says it's time to move on.

Polls found most Americans opposed federal involvement in the case, and the issue helped contribute to a drop in approval ratings for the Republican-controlled Congress.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; frist; schiavo; schiavoautopsy; swindlersdone; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Saundra Duffy

Ignore them, Saundra. I know from your posts how much this case affected you and I pray that you can find some peace.

I second Bonnie's statement about your sincere concern for Terri....that has always been evident. I apologize for those that mock you, make fun of you, etc.....I do think some of them are pro-death and would tell me to starve my grandma (who has alzheimers) in a minute. Of course none of them would say it publicly on this board.

I hope knowing that Terri is with God now does bring you some comfort.


41 posted on 06/16/2005 10:44:58 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
And now the death-to-Terri crowd just can't stop gloating and celebrating

I guess it makes them feel superior and wiser-than-thou.

42 posted on 06/16/2005 10:45:05 AM PDT by veronica (Mimes and clowns are weird...)
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To: seamole
that doesn't mean that the undamaged portion of the brain was incapable of benefitting from therapy itself, right? Or does there need to be the capacity for "neuron growth and regeneration" in order for the brain to learn anything new?

It depends which parts of the brain are damaged. To take one well studied example for instance, ablation of the hippocampus and associated structures will result in the patient having virtually nil chance of laying down any new declarative memories.

43 posted on 06/16/2005 10:47:12 AM PDT by moatilliatta
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To: BonnieJ

I think such concern and devotion scares some people. Cynics grow hard shells. It's their amour against having to feel. Sad, really. Not people you could trust as friends.


44 posted on 06/16/2005 10:48:24 AM PDT by veronica (Mimes and clowns are weird...)
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To: ambrose

The Schiavo autopsy report contains pretty much what I expected and I believe that it is thorough and objective. In fairness however, I know that medical examiners do make mistakes. The autopsy report for one of my own relatives contained some obvious errors, such as missing the body weight by 50 pounds (more than 50%). Later I saw this medical examiner on screen in a documentary film, testifying in court that a certain death was murder. The jury found otherwise and it appeared that the medical examiner was responding to pressure from the prosecution.


46 posted on 06/16/2005 10:56:03 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: seamole

The only part of her brain still left intact toward the end was the part of the brain that controlled the basic involuntary functions.


47 posted on 06/16/2005 11:09:40 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: veronica
... guess it makes them feel superior and wiser-than-thou.

Smarter, less paralyzed be emotion, yep, thats for sure.

48 posted on 06/16/2005 11:33:42 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: ambrose

He did diagnose her and he was stupid to do so.


49 posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:42 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Still practicing medicine without a license huh?

Why don't you go to your state's Veterans home and ask those brave vets there what they think of a disabled non verbal person such as Terri being starved to death.


50 posted on 06/16/2005 11:45:27 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Getting tired of the Culture of Killing.)
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To: I Like Lincoln; All
Nothing is impossible, but I believe the report said the brain was badly atrophied.

Putting all emotions aside, IMHO what bothers so many folks here is:

what was the reason her brain became so badly atrophied? the suspicion is wide that Terri did not receive appropriate therapy over a long number of years...

...and whether or not there was a real chance of any significant or miraculous "recovery", is it right to dehydrate/starve a healthy brain-damaged, non-verbal person to death? there is unease, to say the least, about the whole circumstances under which this was finally done.

This was indeed a long, sad chapter in "modern American life", no matter what our personal opinions/convictions might be. my 2 cents.

51 posted on 06/16/2005 12:14:23 PM PDT by 88keys
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To: seamole

The medical examiner should know that other nerve pathways can often be trained to take over certain functions. But it won't happen through neglect and disuse.


52 posted on 06/16/2005 12:20:06 PM PDT by tertiary01 (Getting tired of the Culture of Killing.)
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To: 88keys

Yes, sad indeed. We wouldn't starve someone on death-row, so it's very sad that this is the manner in which it was done.


53 posted on 06/16/2005 12:37:29 PM PDT by I Like Lincoln
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To: ambrose

"Polls found most Americans opposed federal involvement in the case, and the issue helped contribute to a drop in approval ratings for the Republican-controlled Congress."

Correction: Pollaganda attempts by the MSM to make this a negative issue for the Republicans were largely unsuccessful.


54 posted on 06/16/2005 12:57:24 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: Cicero

"Frist's actual statement as reported is nuanced and reasonable. He does not reverse himself or back down. The headline should not be allowed to mischaracterize his whole response."

That won't stop those wanting Terri Schiavo be killed from twisting whatever Frist says into whatever they want.

Terri was severely brain damaged.
Terri died of dehydration, a particularly cruel way to die.
Brave New World, and all.


55 posted on 06/16/2005 1:02:25 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: tertiary01
Still practicing medicine without a license huh?

I don't need a medical license to comment on a news story. You should be smart enough to even figure that out.

Why don't you go to your state's Veterans home and ask those brave vets there what they think of a disabled non verbal person such as Terri being starved to death.

Go pound sand.

56 posted on 06/16/2005 1:06:52 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: tertiary01
Still practicing medicine without a license huh?

Besides, anyone who didn't flunk out of Junior High biology would know which areas of the brain control what. If you bothered to read the autopsy report, you'd know this. Since all you can come up with is some snide remark, I doubt you did either one.

57 posted on 06/16/2005 1:10:15 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: WOSG

I agree. There are two issues here. One is that the Culture of Death needs to be driven back, especially by judicial appointments and by persuading politicians that advocating abortion is not a political winner.

The second is, never trust the MSM to tell you what anyone said. You need to verify everything the MSM claims, especially the headlines.


58 posted on 06/16/2005 1:15:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

The WP played games. When I first saw the article, it had a lot of detail of what Frist actually said, that he did not regret standing up for Terri and stands by his diagnosis based on the videotape, etc.

Then when I posted the link, and I looked, they posted a completely different article with the same title, mostly quoting Felos.

I guess they must have gone back to the more reasonable article and changed the title to reflect the content.

Too bad we can't post full articles, so we could track the way they change stuff minute by minute sometimes.


59 posted on 06/16/2005 1:20:48 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: NJ_gent

Sometimes there is no vast conspiracy or coverup, in fact most of the time this is not the case.


60 posted on 06/16/2005 1:22:41 PM PDT by cubram
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