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Are We A Privileged Planet? - (are we "alone" among billions of galaxies, stars & planets?)
AMERICAN ENTERPRISE ONLINE.COM ^ | JUNE 10, 2005 | WILLIAM TUCKER

Posted on 06/10/2005 8:04:42 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: CHARLITE
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41 posted on 06/10/2005 9:17:27 PM PDT by null and void (Oh what a tag lined web we weave...)
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To: CHARLITE

It looks to me like every single number in this article is made up.


42 posted on 06/10/2005 9:17:28 PM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: bikepacker67
Nahh... we just have a shitty little test sample.

Have you lost your mind? The earth is the most beautiful and wondrous place imaginable! If not for the evil of man, and of Satan, this would be heaven!

Maybe it is. Read carefully...

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good." -- Genesis 1:6-10

So far, so good. Now, read this very carefully...

"And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good." -- Genesis 1:20

Winged fowl fly around in heaven? Then is Heaven not our atmosphere?

43 posted on 06/10/2005 9:19:18 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." -- Psalms 19:1)
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To: RobbyS

You may know Kurt Vonnegut's book, Ice Nine.

I've lost track, but there are at least 14 forms of ice, depending on temperature and pressure. Some of these occur in snow, resulting in many different crystals.

When water molecules crystalize, hydrogen bonding and van der Waals forces become dominant. This is well understood and needs no miracles to explain.

In fact with enough miracles, anything whatsoever can be "explained".

It is also possible for liquid water, ice, and steam to co-exist. This is at the triple point. Any thermodynamics text can provide details. Oxygen, sulfur, iron, uranium, etc. also have a triple point. Also molecular compounds, such as ethanol, sulfur dioxide.


44 posted on 06/10/2005 9:19:36 PM PDT by thomaswest (We are all for God. Who claims to know may be questioned.)
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To: CHARLITE
are we "alone" among billions of galaxies, stars & planets?

Of course not. But the odds that there are other beings who share any part of our unique reality, let alone share one or more of our "senses", are slim. It's not even likely that other beings would have any concept of what "planets", "suns", or "universes" are. They may have no concept of "time" or "space"; of "solid", "liquid", or "gas"; of "sight", "sound", or "touch". They may have no concept of what a concept is.

The point is, we are never going to contact any other "beings" in any usual way. The notion that we will someday "talk" with little green men or beings which are even remotely humanoid, complete with brains and hearts, etc., is laughable on its face, although it is certainly the vanity of human nature to dream of the possibility. Not all that long ago it was a difficult proposition for men to slowly, reluctantly, give up the idea that the sun and stars all revolved around the earth.

45 posted on 06/10/2005 9:21:51 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PhilipFreneau

Agree with you.

Planet Earth is a wonderful gift from the Creator.


46 posted on 06/10/2005 9:22:13 PM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: staytrue

"We know the dinosaurs had 200 million years to develope technology and they failed."

They died out, but primates evolved and did develope tools.

How old is the universe? No one can answer that. How old is our milky way? Again no one can answer that. We will probably never know in our lifetimes if there is any intelligent life out there. No one can say for certain if there is or isn't. We can believe it, or not believe it. With billions of stars and other solar systems out there, to think we are the only ones, seems narrow minded.

Why would we not think or believe that there is other intelligent life? Maybe life (civilizations?)that are a million lifetimes older than us. Are we to be the new Flat Earth Society? Every day brings us closer to the answers, did we know there was another planet beyond Pluto until recently? (Sedna). We have begun to reach out into the universe, this is only the begining, to go where no man has gone, in hopes to find other intelligent life. When (if) we make contact that will surely present additional questions to ponder and answer. Will we stop there? I doubt it, mankind's quest for knowledge is endless. Will we ever develope the technology to do all those things? I believe we will in the far future, provided of course we don't end up destroying ourselves.


47 posted on 06/10/2005 9:22:57 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Spandau

If life is just the result of spontaneous generation like the scientists believe then it is imperative that any intelligent species that pops up has a very limited time to escape their original planet. A few hundred years into technologically advanced industrial existence and everything is used up. Thus the need for a new planet.

But there's a problem. Bio-organisms. Like viruses. In order to survive on a new planet the colonizing life forms must co-mingle their DNA with some suitable resident species.

If Somebody made up the Bible out of whole cloth then something like the above could be a reasonable explanation for what's going on around here.


48 posted on 06/10/2005 9:23:02 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: CHARLITE
Most humans don't have a clue...

I think it's extreme hubris to think that we're the only intelligent form of life in the Universe (or that we're even all that intelligent to begin with.) Besides, Slartibartfast really made the Earth. He even won an award for the Fjords.

49 posted on 06/10/2005 9:24:42 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: thomaswest

Vonnegut's book which featured Ice 9 was called 'Cat's Cradle'.
Terrific read.

Regards,
LH


50 posted on 06/10/2005 9:25:06 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Dark Skies

No, Jesus is not a liar. AFAIK he did not discuss these things. God is the Lord of the Universe. He works in mysterious ways.


51 posted on 06/10/2005 9:32:38 PM PDT by Spandau
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To: thomaswest

"You may know Kurt Vonnegut's book, Ice Nine."

Wasn't the title of that book "Cat's Cradle"?  (LOL - I've made the same mistake.)

Another good book of his was Slaughterhouse-Five

52 posted on 06/10/2005 9:34:48 PM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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To: Lancey Howard

"Vonnegut's book which featured Ice 9 was called 'Cat's Cradle'. "

LOL - you beat me to it, Lancey.

53 posted on 06/10/2005 9:41:29 PM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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To: PhilipFreneau

Actually there are three heavens in the Bible. The heaven we see in the day, the nighttime heaven and Heaven where God resides.


54 posted on 06/10/2005 9:41:35 PM PDT by winodog (We need to pull the fedgov.con's feeding tube)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
I wonder ? if you took 1 oz of water put it in a cup ( first weigh the cup ) and took the same amount of water ( 1 oz ) and froze it, and weigh the froze water, would both be the same weight ? or would the froze water of the same amount ( 1 oz ) weigh less ?

They weigh the same, of course, but the frozen water expands, being less dense, and therefore floats.

55 posted on 06/10/2005 9:46:26 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Spandau
I believe we were created by aliens as part of an experiment that was abandoned and allowed to run wild.

Just as the Chihuahua is the result of intelligent design - by humans.

56 posted on 06/10/2005 9:48:40 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: MHGinTN
I'm wondering if the orientation of two hydrogens to one oxygen (they line up opposite each other as I understand it) has anything to do with why the solid crystalline state is lighter (less molecules per volume in the crystalline form).

As I understand it, the two hydrogen molecules do not go to opposite ends of the oxygen molecule. The angle between them is less than 180 degrees. This means that a water molecule has a "positive" side and a "negative" side. This is what allows a microwave oven to work. The alternating magnetic field grabs onto the water molecule by the polar ends, and causes the molecule to oscillate back and forth as the microwave magnetic field changes. This movement produces friction that produces heat. If the two hydrogen molecules were at opposite ends of the water molecule, there would be no polar ends on the water, and we would have no microwave ovens.

57 posted on 06/10/2005 9:57:50 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Wearing My 'Jammies Proudly)
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To: gamarob1

Used to work with Missler but he was still in the closet then.


58 posted on 06/10/2005 10:02:42 PM PDT by ncountylee
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To: BlazingArizona

Yes. The Chihuahua is made from off-the-shelf components though. I believe the aliens would have broken it down even further, experimenting on a fundamental level hundreds of millions of years ago.


59 posted on 06/10/2005 10:03:30 PM PDT by Spandau
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To: Lancey Howard; Cornpone; Blurblogger; EagleUSA
Quite a long time ago, I read that Einstein did a calculation according to his version of The Law of Probability. He concluded that of all of the known galaxies, stars and planets revolving around each sun, there could be 600 (MAX) planets similar to earth, which could support life as we know it.

Six hundred out of billions upon billions is a conservative figure. It's simply a high probability, but - of course - says nothing about what state of development such life would be at on the life supporting planets.

You could look at it as "the lottery of the universe." How many lotteries are run every year? How many people buy tickets? What is the % of ticket holders who won?

There is a science to the Law of Probability. I just don't know what the facts about it are, but obviously it has to do with pure numbers, and the occurrence of random chance within such massive numbers.

Char :)

60 posted on 06/10/2005 10:06:51 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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