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Dean is making alot of noise but not the type the Dems want to hear - (on his way out?)
JEWISH WORLD REVIEW.COM ^ | JUNE 10, 2005 | JACK KELLY

Posted on 06/10/2005 7:32:42 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: Txsleuth
I don't know.

I'm not so worried about the Dean Hillary thing, because I really don't think the Clintons planned it.

Actually, I don't think that they planned much of anything, but Bill is a master at getting every last drop out of any situation, and we can count on him to play or spin Dean to his advantage.

I think that Dean acts the way that he does because he isn't acting.
That's Dean in all of his glory and he is going to use that pulpit to the max to overcompensate for his failure in 04.

A pompous, self aggrandizing ass.

And rest assured, the MSM will be mounting an ever increasing full court press to elect Hillary.

Dean is a great asset. To us.
21 posted on 06/10/2005 8:23:35 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Txsleuth
You're not being goofy. In fact, you nailed it!

This is politics, where nothing is at it seems.

Dean provides excellent cover for The Hildabeaste.

And I'm sure he's smart enough to know that if she felt he was hurting her 2008 chances he'd be gone in a NY (pun intended :) minute.

In the meantime he's providing diversions for them and us. We're applauding because we feel he shows how ridiculous the RATS are. They applaud because he reflects the position of the really rabid RATS.

22 posted on 06/10/2005 8:25:27 PM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CHARLITE

Good Dean Joke...."Howard Dean is a politician, a medical doctor and a Democrat. So he has three reasons to tell women to take off their clothes now."


23 posted on 06/10/2005 8:29:19 PM PDT by FreeRep
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To: upchuck

Yeppers, just like you didn't see Hill making a big splash suring the judicial nominees circus...oh, no, that would mean she would have to take a side...

She just conveniently will be giving campaign speeches for the next 4 years whenever there is something controversial going on in the Senate, UNLESS, she feels she can be the star of the show!!!


24 posted on 06/10/2005 8:37:41 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Txsleuth
"She just conveniently will be giving campaign speeches for the next 4 years.."

I have some hope that this new "tell all" book which is about to his the bookstores will do some serious damage to this woman's image. For one thing, it will reportedly show how "Living History" was truly fiction; i.e. she LIED to everyone, when she penned that autobiography!....oh yeah, you're going to say, "Duh!" . . but the trouble is that there are millions who still don't get it about Killery! That's what worries me.

Char

25 posted on 06/10/2005 9:48:23 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: PilloryHillary

I think the post is correct. More than a week ago Drudge
intimated that Dean was on the way out. "Follow the
money" -- and Dean is failing at what is MOST important
to them right now - fundraising.


26 posted on 06/10/2005 10:17:02 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: CHARLITE

The book is by Ed Klein and what will give it a really
big impact is that Klein is a liberal and an excellect
journalist -- New York Times Magazine, etc. Hillary
can't dismiss it as part of the "vast right wing
conspiracy."


27 posted on 06/10/2005 10:23:00 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: sarasotarepublican
"I fear Dean is seeing his last days."

Dean isn't going anywhere. After all Rangle compared Gitmo to the Holocaust. Hillary compared Bush's presidency to a tyrrany, nothing more than a brutal "power grab." Democrats in the House and the Senate have also said that Bush is "power mad."

The simple fact of the matter is that the entire party is doing exactly what Dean is supposed to be in trouble for. And why are they doing it? Because the lunatics demand it be so.

These people are ideological fanatics who cater to fanaticism.

28 posted on 06/10/2005 10:44:31 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

"We will bury you white Christian Republicans!"

29 posted on 06/10/2005 10:49:29 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Daffy Dean.)
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To: sarasotarepublican

I wonder if they'll give Deanie a way to save face by quitting to run for that Vermont Senate seat that comes open next year.


30 posted on 06/10/2005 10:50:56 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Daffy Dean.)
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To: Reactionary

Make that "Rangel." it's late. :)


31 posted on 06/10/2005 10:58:31 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: PilloryHillary
Dean will be at the head of the DNC for a while. He is there to make Hillary, Kerry, Kennedy, and the other liberal wackos seem moderate and sane.

I agree, Dean's suicide is calculated and he knows what he is doing. As we approach '08 concerned, moderate sensible Hellary will have to rescue the party from Howlin' Howie and Dean will go to the woodshed with candidate Hellary appealing to non-Rats to bring the country together under her moderate leadership. The Deaniacs will vote Hellary knowing they are really getting Joe Stalin in a skirt (all right with them) and the rest of the Rats will vote Rat, dumb as they are. The only questions are will the non-Rats be fooled, and will McCain try to Perot the Pubbies?

32 posted on 06/10/2005 11:14:30 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: PilloryHillary
Dean will be at the head of the DNC for a while. He is there to make Hillary, Kerry, Kennedy, and the other liberal wackos seem moderate and sane.

I believe you are correct...

33 posted on 06/10/2005 11:20:42 PM PDT by easonc52
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To: cripplecreek

He's being held up as an example to their base - "This is why we can't be honest. This is what happens to liberals."


34 posted on 06/10/2005 11:22:36 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Paul Atreides
I don't trust organizations that prefer to have all their leaders in their twenties. It's a group too easy to manipulate. Very brown shirt...

think he is also there to appease the moveon.org people.

35 posted on 06/11/2005 8:39:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (Deep Throat(s) -- top level FBI officials playing cub reporters for fools.)
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To: easonc52
Dean will be at the head of the DNC for a while. He is there to make Hillary, Kerry, Kennedy, and the other liberal wackos seem moderate and sane.

It won't work because he's the "head" of the party. You always want wackos extremists at the bottom level -- quotable but without power. Have the dems forgotten the lessons of the '60's?

36 posted on 06/11/2005 8:44:28 AM PDT by GOPJ (Deep Throat(s) -- top level FBI officials playing cub reporters for fools.)
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To: Charles Henrickson
I wonder if they'll give Deanie a way to save face by quitting to run for that Vermont Senate seat that comes open next year.

If they ask him to step down, it will certainly be a save face situation.

37 posted on 06/11/2005 10:39:56 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican (The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.)
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To: Reactionary
Dean isn't going anywhere.

Good! Let us hope you are right.

38 posted on 06/11/2005 10:41:03 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican (The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.)
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To: Reactionary
..Dean isn't going anywhere ..

You are correct. The state and county party officials who are the group that elected him to the position believe that he is doing a wonderful job.

They are people who loved him and his plain-spoken statements of leftist views in 2004, but were persuaded that he couldn't win and Kerry could. And they went out and worked like dogs for John Kerry.

They are kicking themselves now, convinced that Kerry lost because he was not forthrightly liberal. They believe that the way to win is to go hard left, and draw millions of voters to the polls who currently do not vote. What they don't see or won't believe, and the centrist Democrats do, is that whether that works or not, Deans rhetoric will drive almost all the center third of the now-voting electorate (the swing vote) into the arms of the Republicans.

The last time the true believers had this kind of control over a political party was in 1964. Barry Goldwater (for whom I voted) said things that the party base loved. He got around 35% of the vote. The entire middle, which does not really understand ideological poitics and is quite put off by it, voted overwhlmingly for Johnson.

Dean wants to run in 2008. If he has not fallen out of favor with the base or self-destructed in some way, they will nominate him. He will say things that they love to hear, and he will get around 35% of the vote.

39 posted on 06/11/2005 11:16:35 AM PDT by MrNatural (..".You want the truth?!"...)
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