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Philadelphia schools to require African, black history
Associated Press ^ | 06/09/2005 | Maryclaire Dale

Posted on 06/09/2005 1:59:34 PM PDT by americaprd

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To: americaprd

There used to be a consensus on what was important in American history. Unfortunately, no such consensus exists today. I have no faith in a curriculum proposed by liberals and leftists.


41 posted on 06/09/2005 3:03:12 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: americaprd

Typical liberal thinking: to reach racial harmony, we must take every opportunity to point out differences between the races and put down one of them (guess which one).


42 posted on 06/09/2005 3:08:15 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
Actually, Scotland has had an impact far in excess of what one would expect of a country of 7 million.

I remember taking my Daddy's Ecyclopedia Britannica and just reading it. I was surprised how many famous men were from Scotland. A lot of them not famous enough that you would have heard of them but famous because of what they accomplished.

43 posted on 06/09/2005 3:09:22 PM PDT by Shanda
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To: Shanda
Actually, Scotland has had an impact far in excess of what one would expect of a country of 7 million.

To clarify: the Scots have had a tremendous historical impact. Scottish history arguably has not. The Wars of the Roses and the internecine warfare of the Italian city-states had a widespread impact on European history, but a great many Kings of Scots came and went without ever influencing much outside Scotland.

44 posted on 06/09/2005 3:17:34 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: SedVictaCatoni

If Scotland produced Scots who had a tremendous impact on the world then the country by definition had a tremendous impact on the world.


45 posted on 06/09/2005 3:20:17 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
If Scotland produced Scots who had a tremendous impact on the world then the country by definition had a tremendous impact on the world.

You misunderstand the distinction I draw between the Scots and the history of Scotland. Neil Armstrong had an important impact on world affairs, but that doesn't mean that Wapakoneta, Ohio did.

46 posted on 06/09/2005 3:23:25 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
I understand the distinction. I am not sure you do.

I doubt if many people know of Einstein"s parents, but they definitely had an impact on the world.

Just because it is indirect does not make it not so.

The people Scotland produced are as much a part of her history as the wars she fought.

As an aside I remember when they were making lists of the 100 greatest people in history. I thought that no one would say "Sir Alexander Fleming" yet his discovery of penicillin lead indirectly to saving more lives than probably any thing in history. Before 1900 over 90% of people died of infectious disease. After 1950 the number had fallen to less than 10%.

That is a tremendous impact on world history.

47 posted on 06/09/2005 3:31:35 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: SedVictaCatoni

That was a nice post.


48 posted on 06/09/2005 3:33:31 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: yarddog
Just because it is indirect does not make it not so.

And by reductio ad absurdum, some aboriginal Pictish ancestor of the Scots was the most important of them all. This approach, however, does not assist our understanding of history.

As an aside I remember when they were making lists of the 100 greatest people in history. I thought that no one would say "Sir Alexander Fleming" yet his discovery of penicillin lead indirectly to saving more lives than probably any thing in history.

Then why not, by your logic, cite Fleming's crucial parents?

49 posted on 06/09/2005 3:47:16 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
Well the connection gets less with each generation. That is obvious.

In other words you don't have to go back very far before one of your ancestors can claim only 1/128th credit for you.

Same goes for countries. Scotland may not be able to claim full credit for Alexander Graham Bell but they can for Alexander Fleming.

As for whatever town that was for the first man on the Moon, I would bet if you went there and asked what that little town had ever contributed to world history, someone would say "Have you never heard the first man on the moon?.

50 posted on 06/09/2005 3:57:56 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Someone just told me Bell was in fact born in Scotland.


51 posted on 06/09/2005 4:07:09 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: americaprd
Looks like another opportunity for the private schools.

It will be another milestone in the victimology curriculum.

Sounds great.

52 posted on 06/09/2005 4:09:53 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Malesherbes

Not so. No. 3 will be: Cushy high-paying racial preference job at any number of large corporations or government agencies. The "You want fries with that" jobs, if they even get those, will go to those who fail to complete steps 1 and 2. And to think that there are some who actually believe that America isn't a land of opportunity!


53 posted on 06/09/2005 4:45:42 PM PDT by Bogolyubski (Liberalism - a terminal mental illness)
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To: wardaddy
He and Booker T.

Booker T. and the MG's?

54 posted on 06/09/2005 4:49:40 PM PDT by Bernard (Which gospel does your truth come from?)
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To: cyborg
I would love to see the curriculum.

I would, too. I'm old enough so that my History education concentrated on important civilizations (Greeks, Romans, etc), important eras (Dark Ages, Renaissance, etc.), and the now discredited Western "white guys" (like George Washington, Ben Franklin, etc.)
There were dark skinned people in the lessons (esp. in this country - Douglas, Booker T., G. W. Carver, etc.)

It might be my age and education, but I don't know of an era or civilization where world history was changed by a group united only by their skin color.

55 posted on 06/09/2005 4:54:56 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: Centurion2000

As I recall, the Ibo were the folks who tried to break free of Nigeria in the 1970s and form their own nation of Biafra. The predominantly Muslim Nigerian army crushed the attempt with horrific slaughter inflicted upon the Animist and Christian Ibo.


56 posted on 06/09/2005 4:56:10 PM PDT by Bogolyubski (Liberalism - a terminal mental illness)
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To: montag813

SHHHH...you're telling the truth...it'll never fly in "Social Studies" class...


57 posted on 06/09/2005 5:19:34 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: cyborg
"I would love to see the curriculum."
According to one Hegel (rather well known German philosopher of mid-19 century), "history did not take place in Africa". Thus in Hegelian terms the curriculum would have to be rich in fiction.
58 posted on 06/09/2005 5:25:54 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: americaprd
The course in African and African-American studies, now offered as an elective at 11 of the city's 54 high schools, has captivated students who have taken it, teachers say.

It's probably a very easy class. Such classes usually are in college.

59 posted on 06/09/2005 5:27:05 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "LOL!!!" -- MikeinIraq; "Bravo" -- EODTIM69)
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....I would love to see the curriculum."......

"Now, class, before we do the higher math studies on the amount of reparations each of us are due; we'll spend the next month de-constructing the poetry of Maya Angelou"


60 posted on 06/09/2005 5:39:55 PM PDT by aShepard
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