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Surfer May Have Been Bitten by Shark
AP ^ | June 08, 2005 | ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 06/08/2005 12:33:47 PM PDT by Capt. Tom

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To: Capt. Tom

Hmmm, good point.


41 posted on 06/08/2005 1:41:10 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: Capt. Tom

This is comforting. . .considering that I was surfing off Beach Haven last weekend.


42 posted on 06/08/2005 1:46:25 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Capt. Tom

If this is the same story that I heard years ago...didn't the Great White swim 5 to 10 miles inland and attack some children swimming in the creek? I found it quite amazing.


43 posted on 06/08/2005 1:56:55 PM PDT by asp1
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To: Capt. Tom
Maybe surf-running baracuda or giant crab?

Well, he wasn't sure.

44 posted on 06/08/2005 1:57:38 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: FlipWilson
This is comforting. . .considering that I was surfing off Beach Haven last weekend.

I just answered an e- mail fom a young girl this morning before I saw this NJ story. She was concerned about going surfing in New Hampshire. If she reads this New Jersey story she will probably be unduly worried.

Her e- mail to me

hi i was recently looking on the internet about shark > attacks and crossed your website. the pictures of > those sharks all of you guys caught were amazing. You > see last summer i started surfing at north beach and > rye NH. from day one everyone said dont worry about > sharks theres none around here, thats only down south > and what not. Looking on your website worried me, so i > figured because you deal with fishing and sharks all > the time, maybe you could tell me what you think the > odds are of seeing a shark in the surfing line up in > hampton or rye NH. just from your personal opinion. i > would greatly appreciate any feed back you may have. > thanks for your time. ~XXXXX~ AGE:16

My answer to her:
Hi XXX I would not worry one bit about sharks while surfing in New Hampshire. There are three species that are the most dangerous to people. Bulls ,tigers and whites. Bulls and tigers are not in your area and the white is so uncommon that I would not consider it likely you would ever see one in your area. - Tom

45 posted on 06/08/2005 1:59:16 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Lazamataz
Jumping the shark has jumped the shark.

I haven't finished with it yet.

46 posted on 06/08/2005 2:00:11 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: blu
doo doo doo doo DOO DOO DOO DO!

hehe, that really needs a sound track. ...without it, one might think it was a gay sex joke.

47 posted on 06/08/2005 2:00:22 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: asp1
If this is the same story that I heard years ago...didn't the Great White swim 5 to 10 miles inland and attack some children swimming in the creek? I found it quite amazing It apears the attacks in Matawan Creek NJ were done by a bull shark, that has no problem going into and staying in fresh water. Granted that creek might have had brackish water.

There is no evidence whites go into brackish water or fresh water.

Scientists want to put satellite tracking devices on whites because among other things it would show if they do in fact enter some brackish estuaries. - Tom

48 posted on 06/08/2005 2:06:11 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom
Surfer May Have Been Bitten by Shark >>

may? I just saw the boy on eyewitness news; it's definite.

Beach Haven where one of the famous 1916 shark attacks occurred. >>>

Is this the place where a shark (bull or tiger?) attacked some people swimming in a river.
49 posted on 06/08/2005 2:11:02 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Capt. Tom

Latest thinking is that there were multiple sharks behind those attacks in NJ in 1916; Great White on the beach, Bull Shark going up Matewan Creek.


50 posted on 06/08/2005 2:25:55 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Coleus
Beach Haven where one of the famous 1916 shark attacks occurred. >>>

Excerpt njhm.com

Charles Van Sant, a 23 year-old vacationer for Philadelphia could not wait to enjoy the refreshing waters of the Atlantic Ocean. The train ride that had brought him and his family to Beach Haven had been much too long and much too hot, and Van Sant had made his way to the beach within an hour of their arrival. He swam out about one hundred yards and then leisurely began to make his way back to shore, occasionally swimming but just as often riding the waves.

He was within fifty feet of shore when other bathers in shallower water noticed a large shadow following him. They shouted warnings to him, but he failed to hear them and remained blissfully unaware of the danger until suddenly he felt something grasp his legs.

On the shore, Alexander Ott, a former Olympic swimmer, could see Van Sant disappear beneath the surf and a large red stain growing in the water. He dove into the ocean and quickly swam to where he had last seen the injured Van Sant. As he reached the spot, Ott could saw the black body and fin of the attacker in the water nearby. At first it seemed as if was moving towards him, but it veered off and raced out to sea.

Ott found the unconscious Van Sant and dragged him to shore, but there was nothing that could be done. His life ebbed away on the beach. Both legs had been severely mangled.

51 posted on 06/08/2005 2:53:49 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom
Thanks for the response and the link, there's some interesting stories on it.

I think the Beach Haven incident was one in five of a rash of shark attacks in 1916, the story that came to mind was in the estuary of Matawan Creek; a place where most sharks do not prowl.

Investigation of 1916 shark attacks continues

1916 Shark Attack. 1916 Shark Attack at Matawan Creek, New Jersey

Weird NJ - the Matawan man-eater

52 posted on 06/08/2005 3:46:54 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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Tiger Shark (Galeocerdo cuvier) -- could this species be the New Jersey Maneater?  It seems possible but unlikely.


Bull Shark (Carcharhinus leucas) -- this species is notorious for entering fresh water and attacking people there, 
a reputation that makes it an obvious suspect in the Matawan Creek attacks.


White Shark (Carcharodon carcharias) -- since the infamous series of attacks seemed to stop with the capture of a young White Shark, reportedly with human remains in its stomach, it was widely assumed this animal was the culprit; other researchers are not so sure.

53 posted on 06/08/2005 3:47:25 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: blu
So, all you former Jersey surfers, c'mon over!

Blu ain't speakin' for me, I don't any Jerseyites here . Your state politics is screwed up enough as it is and I don't want it spreading here to Michigan.......Uh, wait a minute here, we did support Kerry didn't we? What the heck, since you guys have figured out how to turn an election via your state supremes, then come on over!!!

54 posted on 06/08/2005 3:54:42 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco
psssttt... Dude (that's surfer talk. Learn it, love it), take it easy! I'm not inviting them to MOVE here, I just want them to come over for a few weeks and bring lots of ca$h! I feel it's my civic duty to do what I can to support our state's ailing economy, seein' as how the Govenorette ain't doing so well.

Remember the mantra of Northern Michigan..."It's all about the tourists and their money. Do it for the Fudgies!!"

55 posted on 06/08/2005 4:09:16 PM PDT by blu (This post edited for brevity.)
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To: Capt. Tom
Thanks, Capt. Still an interesting story. As for putting tracking devices on Great Whites---I wouldn't want to be the mouse putting the bell on that cat. ;^)
56 posted on 06/08/2005 4:26:23 PM PDT by asp1
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To: blu
It's all about the tourists and their money. Do it for the Fudgies!!"

If you want them coming back the least you could have done was tell them to wear long underwear and bring their snow shovels and dry suits........

57 posted on 06/08/2005 4:27:18 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco
If you want them coming back

Well, see, there's the hole in your logic! If we don't' tell them how cold Lake Michigan is, they'll come, spend some $$, and never darken our beaches again...AFTER we get the dough!

58 posted on 06/08/2005 4:59:41 PM PDT by blu (This post edited for brevity.)
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