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Social Security: Migrants Offer Numbers for Fee (Aliens rent Social Security numbers to defraud US)
New York Times ^ | June 7, 2005 | EDUARDO PORTER

Posted on 06/08/2005 7:12:40 AM PDT by JesseJane

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But Mr. Luviano is itching to do it again anyway. He knows that Social Security could provide retirement income down the line. And there's always the tax refund.

1 posted on 06/08/2005 7:12:42 AM PDT by JesseJane
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bump to jessejane


2 posted on 06/08/2005 7:18:10 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: sure_fine

Thanks S/F!


3 posted on 06/08/2005 7:18:46 AM PDT by JesseJane (43 - First 'illegal alien' Presidente')
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To: JesseJane

I always enjoy good news


4 posted on 06/08/2005 7:32:52 AM PDT by RippleFire ("It's a joke, son!")
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5 posted on 06/08/2005 7:50:30 AM PDT by JesseJane (43 - First 'illegal alien' Presidente')
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This was posted before, so I'll just repeat my prior comment:

Working with a name linked to a number recognized by Social Security - even if it is just borrowed or leased - avoids these pitfalls. "It's the safest way,"said Mario Avalos, a Stockton accountant who every year does tax returns for dozens of illegal immigrants. "If you are going to work in a company with strict requirements, you know they won't let you in without good papers."

Illegal immigrant workers usually earn so little they are owed an income tax refund at the end of the year. The illegal immigrant "working the number"will usually pay the real owner by sharing the tax refund

"Sometimes the one who is working doesn't mind giving all the refund, he just wants to work,"said Fernando Rosales, who runs a shop preparing income taxes in the immigrant-rich enclave of Huntington Park, Calif. "But others don't, and sometimes they fight over it. We see that all the time. It's the talk of the place during income tax time."

They are filing false income tax returns. There might be small refunds if too much has been taken out, but if they make so little that they won't owe income tax, they can claim an exemption from withholding. What is really going on here (I have no doubt) is Earned Income Tax Credit fraud, which will net them thousands of dollars. While the "qualifying child" (or two qualifying children to max out the EITC refund) also need valid SS#s, that might not be a problem for number-lender, who may have his own children born in the US, or know people with Hispanic names who will "lend" him their children with SS#s. The local Spanish-surnamed tax preparers are obviously in on the scam. Does the IRS care about any of this?


6 posted on 06/08/2005 8:02:40 AM PDT by MRMEAN ("On the Internet nobody knows that you're a dog")
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The only thing consistant in the Illegal Alien community is that they ALWAYS find a way to commit even MORE crime. Federal laws be damned.


7 posted on 06/08/2005 8:22:35 AM PDT by marty60
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The local Spanish-surnamed tax preparers are obviously in on the scam. Does the IRS care about any of this?

I doubt if it would do any good, but one could always send the article to the IRS and to any state licensing agencies (if these two are required to have one).


8 posted on 06/08/2005 8:39:13 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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The only thing consistant in the Illegal Alien community is that they ALWAYS find a way to commit even MORE crime.

This Luviano character is a real piece of work.

Mr. Luviano got his green card by a combination of luck and guile... he was on a short trip to visit his brother in California when the 1986 [amnesty] immigration law went into effect ...

... he qualified when a farmer wrote a letter avowing he had worked for months in his fields [he hadn't worked in the fields] ... Once he had his papers he returned to Tlalchapa.

He has entered the U.S. several times since then, mostly to renew his green card.

... in the early 1990's, concerned that long absences could put his green card at risk and spurred by the chance to make a little extra money, he lent his Social Security number to his brother's friend. "I kept almost all the income tax refund," Luviano said.

Luviano decided to pull the plug on the arrangement, however, when bills for purchases he had not made started arriving in his name at his brother's address. "You lend your number in good faith and you can get yourself in trouble," he said.

But Luviano is itching to do it again anyway. He knows that Social Security could provide retirement income down the line. And there's always the tax refund. "I haven't profited as much as I could from those documents," he said ruefully.

9 posted on 06/08/2005 9:10:13 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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Wow a full confession.


10 posted on 06/08/2005 10:27:05 AM PDT by marty60
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They will when we all change our last names, and refuse to file income tax.


11 posted on 06/08/2005 12:52:48 PM PDT by JesseJane (43 - First 'illegal alien' Presidente')
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The immigrant invasion has degraded the glories of US democracy, and exploited our freedoms for fraudulent personal gain.

The New York Review of Books
November 16, 2000
The Russians Are Coming!
Review By RAYMOND BONNER
[DJ: Footnotes not included.]

Red Mafiya: How the Russian Mob Has Invaded America
by Robert I. Friedman
296 pages, $25.95 (hardcover)
published by Little, Brown

Robert Friedman's book is the first to describe in detail the Russian mobsters who have established criminal enterprises throughout the world. His prose sometimes makes it sound like a sequel to Pulp Fiction. A Russian killer in Brooklyn murders a boy, he writes, "by picking him up like a ragdoll with one hand and plunging a knife into his heart with the other." But more than any other reporter he reveals how sophisticated, ruthless, rich, and multinational Russian criminals have become.

Among other things, he writes, they have arranged the sale of military helicopters and a submarine for the Colombia drug barons, and they have acquired influence over the American National Hockey League by threatening players from Eastern Europe and Russia and extorting money from them. They have infiltrated the international financial system, rigging share prices and buying banks in Hungary, Israel, and California. Now they are expanding into Nigeria, South Africa, and Australia.








Investigators Say Fraud Ring Staged Thousands of Crashes,
By PATRICK HEALY, New York Times, August 12, 2003

"Law-enforcement officials said today that they had cracked an insurance-fraud ring that staged thousands of car accidents and then employed its own network of doctors, acupuncture therapists and fake medical clinics to bilk an insurance company out of $48 million.

Prosecutors and insurance experts said the ring was the largest of its kind ever broken in New York State. A grand jury on Long Island has issued 567 indictments, 86 of which were made public at a news conference here today. Those indicted included doctors, psychiatrists, chiropractors, dentists and nearly 20 bogus health-care clinics that were set up as part of the scheme to defraud State Farm Insurance, the Suffolk County district attorney, Thomas J. Spota, said. "It's one of the biggest busts in the nation in terms of its breadth, its scope and the dollars involved," said Robert Hartwig, the chief economist of the Insurance Information Institute, an industry group. "We're talking about bringing down an entire network. It's analogous to bringing down a drug kingpin."


Mr. Spota said the ring used "runners" and "crash dummies" in cars that would cut in front of other cars, often driven by women with children or by elderly people, slam on the brakes, and cause a crash. The authorities said the investigation dates to 2001, when they received word from insurers who noticed the same names were popping up over and over on insurance claims. One runner was involved with about 1,000 accidents.

Although tales of insurance fraud are well known in New York, Suffolk County investigators and prosecutors said this network, which traces its roots to the heavily Russian Brighton Beach section of Brooklyn, was especially large and complex. Mr. Spota would not link the series of frauds to Russian organized crime, but an insurance-fraud lawyer familiar with the case said the fingerprints of organized crime appeared to be all over it. Some profits from the frauds were channeled to businesses in Russia, while others were funneled into a Swiss bank account and withdrawn by Russian citizens, the authorities said."


12 posted on 06/08/2005 3:19:37 PM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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To: Liz
The immigrant invasion has degraded the glories of US democracy, and exploited our freedoms for fraudulent personal gain.

Yes, and we are apparently wrong to point that out and want it stopped and criminals prosectued..

Hi Liz!! Good to 'see' you again! :) ~ jj

13 posted on 06/08/2005 4:34:40 PM PDT by JesseJane (43 - First 'illegal alien' Presidente')
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Marcus Tullius Cicero A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he
appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.


14 posted on 06/08/2005 5:05:17 PM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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Hi JJ, great thread.

No, we are not wrong to want this criminality to stop.


America is a democracy, governed by a Constitution. We don't tolerate tribal supra-governments, run by self-important dictators undermining democracy, decreeing what Americans can think, or speak.

Every American worth his/her salt comes to the aid of their country when it is under attack.

It's enormously revealing, and indicative of the problem we're up against, that Americans are bashed and belittled for simply defending their country.

What these people really need to do is seek professional help for their self-esteem problems, rather than getting ego gratification by beating up on Americans.


15 posted on 06/08/2005 5:09:07 PM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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To: Liz

Wow. This was incredible. Absolutely true. They walk among us as friends. Beautiful post Liz! (A keeper for me) :) ~jj


16 posted on 06/09/2005 6:22:42 AM PDT by JesseJane (43 - First 'illegal alien' Presidente')
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To: Liz
PS.. hope you don't mind if I repost that on occasion.. It's quite fitting and it's message lethal if ignored.
17 posted on 06/09/2005 6:25:32 AM PDT by JesseJane (43 - First 'illegal alien' Presidente')
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No problem. Have at it.


18 posted on 06/09/2005 6:31:03 AM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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To: Liz

If you aren't a writer you should be. This post was absolutely right on the money.

What is quite troubling is the power that belongs in the hand of each voter, is so easily and freely given away to the control of conmen. We have been led to believe they can do more with our voice than we can. Then, when they betray our faith, time and again, by doing that which only serves themselves, excuses are made to trust them again. If only they had a little more power, they would do things for us. HA.


19 posted on 06/09/2005 6:35:03 AM PDT by JesseJane (43 - First 'illegal alien' Presidente')
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Nice take.

That's what I like about conservatives---they separate the wheat from the chaff.

The Dims remind me of bobble-headed figurines----saying yes to everything, without exception.


20 posted on 06/09/2005 6:41:22 AM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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