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There's Something About Hillary
Townhall ^ | 6/8/05 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 06/08/2005 6:11:18 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

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To: anniegetyourgun
OK. But now compare Mrs. Clinton with the Republican front runners.

Rudy is pro abortion; and signed up for all of the internationalist agenda that refuses to police the US borders and wants to defend the Mohammadan aggression by curtailing the Constitutional rights and privileges of American citizens. No sign that he would do anything about the budget and spending policies or the shrinking dollar. No sign that he would reduce those of our overseas commitments which are not in our national interest.

And if you, or Rudy, think he has the horsepower to stop Mrs. Clinton, the time and place for him to do so is in 2006 in New York where he has wimped out with good reason.

Many here favor Ms. Rice--I don't. My primary objection is that she is not a strong leadership personality. Her convictions are general policy views that go along with the current direction of government. What we need is a candidate with a firm conviction that many of our public policy directions are wrong and must be corrected--with the courage to say so and do something about it when elected.

Frist is another unqualified leader pro Abortion politician who is indistinguishable on policy from the others.

The current fiasco over the judges is a good example. The only--sole--reason I voted for Bush was judicial appointments. I don't know of any other respect in which I think Kerry's Administration would have been any different than the Bush Administration. Kerry would have been a little weaker and probably less effective but a less effective internationalist is positive.

Bush will appoint a successor to Rheinquist; probably O'Conner; probably Ginsburg; maybe Stevens. The goal is to come away from that process with a 5 or 6 vote conservative majority, shifting O'Conner's seat from swing to solid and shifting at least one of the liberals to conservative, two if Bush gets a fourth appointment.

I don't see any sign that Bush has the leadership force at this point to accomplish that objective.

The problem is not just "RINO"s. With a couple of exceptions (Chaffee; and the ladies from Maine and maybe one or two others), most of these people in fact have personal conservative convictions. Bob Dole; Lindsey Graham; for example are conservatives. But they are weak personalities with limited leadership capability--instead of seeking results, they sought compromise. That is the state of Republican leadership--again with some exceptions.

So when you add all this up, unless Republicans can very shortly come up with a common consensus on some present outsider who has real leadership talent and strong views, you better get used to saying President Clinton again.

I might add one longshot to stop her--a Constitutional amendment to permit former two time Presidents who have been out for at least one term to run and be elected again in exchange for twenty year immigrants who were not born in the US. A chance for the Dems to shoot themselves in the foot. Because a contest between Mrs. Clinton and Mr Clinton for the Dem nomination is one way I can think of that both might lose.

21 posted on 06/08/2005 7:09:02 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: mariabush

thanks mb.....


22 posted on 06/08/2005 7:09:53 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Ff--150
I do not believe for one minute that Mrs. Clinton will be elected president. And, if she was by some horrible chance, then there would be no second term for her, as I believe that the terrorist are just waiting for a Democrat to get in charge of military and we will see multipliable attacks on this country. There will not be a country to run for a second term, it will be gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23 posted on 06/08/2005 7:12:17 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: David
This is just what I believe will happen!!!!!!!! G. Bush was not the forerunner at this point in 2000.

Stop the hand wringing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
24 posted on 06/08/2005 7:15:41 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: FairfaxVA

For years she has been solidifying the care facility vote, the mental illness vote, the psychiatric ward vote. She will have their absentee votes in record numbers. She will have unlimited money from Soros and other billionaires. Right now, she is the favorite for 2008, not just to be nominated, but to win. DON'T TAKE HER LIGHTLY!


25 posted on 06/08/2005 7:23:54 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: b4its2late; Mia T
b4its2late------

Hey, whoever you are. I like your screen name.

Along those lines..... years ago, I was going to call myself "ICAB9USA4ALL" .......... how about that?

;-)

26 posted on 06/08/2005 7:33:35 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Sounds of laughter, shades of life are ringing through my open ears exciting and inviting me)
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To: beyond the sea

Sounds great to me. I'm sure JR would let you change it... LOL!


27 posted on 06/08/2005 8:01:52 AM PDT by b4its2late (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: David

What about Tancredo? I've read some good things about him here.


28 posted on 06/08/2005 8:07:38 AM PDT by scars
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To: David
The problem is not just "RINO"s. With a couple of exceptions (Chaffee; and the ladies from Maine and maybe one or two others), most of these people in fact have personal conservative convictions. Bob Dole; Lindsey Graham; for example are conservatives. But they are weak personalities with limited leadership capability--instead of seeking results, they sought compromise. That is the state of Republican leadership--again with some exceptions.

I happen to agree with you. There is no Republican of import with name recognition. All the ones mentioned in the MSM are weak.

I have on my desk 2 questionaires from the Repubs asking my opinion on a varitey of subjects.

I'm trying to cool off enough to tell them what I think of their 'leadership' and keep it civil.

29 posted on 06/08/2005 8:51:51 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: anniegetyourgun
"While I'm deeply concerned, I will work with everything I've got to defeat this broad."

Amen! However many of the "new" sheeple were babes and children when she was in power and sure in the [bleep] are not hearing or have heard anything bad about Mrs. Clinton other than she didn't dump her old man.

Sorry, all this is set beautifully for her, if her cronies can burst the so-called housing bubble through constant preaching on that it's "bursting."

30 posted on 06/08/2005 10:41:36 AM PDT by Ff--150 (Being Enriched in Everything, to All Bountifulness)
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To: mariabush
"There will not be a country to run for a second term, it will be gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

You didn't ask for advice; even so, you better then start preparation for that scenario.

The praying "fad" is over with the Catholic fad being trumpeted by the mass media. If she converts and somehow gets this Pope's approval, Hillery will get the Northeast votes as well as the swarms of invaders.

31 posted on 06/08/2005 10:51:03 AM PDT by Ff--150 (Being Enriched in Everything, to All Bountifulness)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I pray that she runs. She will get beat like a drum.


32 posted on 06/08/2005 11:04:25 AM PDT by Durus
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To: anniegetyourgun
".....Hillary remains an unabashed liberal....."

Of course she is. Hillary Rodham Clinton stands for one thing and one thing only, and that is to preserve and protect the welfare-regulatory state status quo at all costs, and no one should ever forget that fact.

33 posted on 06/08/2005 2:07:34 PM PDT by Pagey (Whether Hillary Clintons' attacks on America are a success or a failure depends upon YOU TOO!)
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To: Pagey

The women in this country are just fruitcake enough to vote her in.


34 posted on 06/08/2005 2:09:46 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: mariabush
" Stop the hand wringing!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I'm not handwringing at all--compared with the Republican alternatives, another Clinton presidency is simply not the end of the world.

35 posted on 06/09/2005 6:25:01 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: David
I totally disagree. A Clinton presidency will be the end of this country as we know it today!!!!!!!! Remember she hates the military and they hate her and will not fight for her.
36 posted on 06/09/2005 9:01:39 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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