We should know better It's become fashionable to blame immigants for all our ills

Concord Monitor and L.A. Times ^ | June 05. 2005 | Cardinal Roger Mahony

[flashbunny]

I'm not sure how he got unbanned.

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

I only blame them for the 1.2 BILLION in taxes we are paying to incarcerate them.OK now?

[Trteamer]

So what's in it for you??

[OKIEDOC]

I won't argue the point either way. Could be that many come in cars driven by friends or relatives who live locally.

Many Mexicans living on this side of the border maintain Mexican license plates.

However, if your from New Mexico or some other state you better not be caught living here without proper tags.

Our hospital had out of pocket costs of over eleven million treating Mexicans without insurance.

[claudiustg]

We used to apprehend and deport illegals. They were gone within 24 hours of being picked up. Now we're not even looking for the most part.

[mountn man]

Why does everybody seem to forget (or choose to forget) that this country greets immigrants with open arms.

im·mi·grant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-grnt) n. 1-A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.

a·li·en ( P ) Pronunciation Key (l-n, lyn) adj. Owing political allegiance to another country or government; foreign: alien residents. n. An unnaturalized foreign resident of a country. Also called noncitizen.

il·le·gal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-lgl) adj. 1-Prohibited by law. 2-Prohibited by official rules: an illegal pass in football. 3-Unacceptable to or not performable by a computer: an illegal operation. n. An illegal immigrant.

What other country welcomes people in with virtually no questions asked? I wish there were a list of the easiest countries to immigrate legally to. And then right next to that list, a ranking of the countries most wanted to immigrate to. And then next to that list, a ranking of countries most immigrated (or wanting to) from.

I bet the US would be at the top, or near it on the first 2, and at the bottom on the last.

But you'll never see lists like that, because it'll expose the lefts lies.

[Richard Axtell]

"I t appears fashionable these days, and almost politically correct, to blame hard-working immigrants, especially those from Mexico and Central America, for the social and economic ills of and our nation.

This one is a variation of what is called, the "Straw Man" gambit, I believe. Exaggerate the premise to absurd levels, and then knock over the "straw man"... viola, no more argument! But, I don't accept the premise, so no sale.

NO, illegal immigrants are not guilty of causing all our economic ills, but they are guilty of violating our immigration laws, causing a great rise in violent crime, closing hospital emergency rooms, greatly overextending our public school infrastructure, and generally creating a plethora of ever growing social problems.

Isn't that enough to insist that our immigration laws either be enforced, or reformed, according to the will of the MAJORITY of the legal voting citizens of this country? If not, then we are already lost.

[FastCoyote]

LA Times, Bayaroud

"It has suddenly become fashionable to blame the collapse of the Roman empire on it's invasion by VisiGoths and Huns. We all know hardworking plunderers are simply trying to raid Rome so their children can grow up to be healthy plunderers themselves."

Times they are not a changing.

[AzaleaCity5691]

The reason we're not looking is because in some places, they even allow "undocumenteds" to vote, and it's almost always Democratic wards that they do this in.

I'd be interesting to see if any "undocumented workers" found a way to vote in the recent Los Angeles elections.

[GSlob]

"There was one big difference between earlier immirgants and the current immigrants. '
There is another point of difference, namely the order of "g" and "r" in "immigrants". But as the article deals with "immigants" the self evident solution would be to fumigrate them.

[Travis McGee]

So now you are posting the musings of one of history's greatest protectors and enablers of serial pedophiles?

How amusing.

[snowman1]

Then why does the church push aid and comfort for all illegals. Why does the church tell it's members to petition for amnesty for all ILLEGALS.

[burzum]

I agree with you that US taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for Mexicans' medical expenses. The solution is simple: do not provide nonemergency medical care for aliens who do not have at the bare minimum a student visa or a green card (excluding the tourist visas) unless they pay up front. In emergency cases, do not allow aliens to cross the border to receive treatment. If people have a legitimate reason to be in this country, they should be able to get medical loans like everyone else.

On a side note, many countries require proof of medical coverage prior to issuing a visa. Is this reasonable?

[mthom]

Lol The other article he posted was advocating more taxpayer money to help illegals learn english, learn their workplace rights, and how to become citizens. Im waiting for Bayourod to post some Amnesty International press release.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

This is pure crapola and Liberal guilt-speak. What Conservatives object to is quite simple:
1) They are here illegally.
2) They are taking jobs from those who ARE here legally.
3) They are incurring substantial infrastructure costs, and reducing the quality of the infrastructure that CITIZENS use (and pay for).
4) They are not assimilating into the US society and culture.
5) They are not reintroducing third-world disease and pestilence into the US society.
6) They are here illegally.

[txdoda]

He's one of the biggest pro-illegal alien apologists on the board.

yep, & these last four threads he's posted are soooo biased, I don't think even one of the other (few) FROBL'ers have even posted ONE agreement with him.

[SandyB]

I dont think anybody blames them for "all" of our ills, just the overcrowding, the taking of jobs, traffic congestion, crime, welfare abuse, crowded hospitals and schools, sending US dollars to mexico and other foreign lands, and in general, voting for liberal democrats and for gun control. Other than that, I dont think this article is right.

[processing please hold]

I agree with that.

I haven't seen him for awhile.

[Desron13]

"We still have immigrants like that. You just don't think of them as immigrants. My aunt is marrying an immigrant, he's Irish. My sister's best friend's parents are immigrants, they're from Greece. Immigrants are fine as a long as they come here legally."

Excuse me. So what the Hells your point? We're talking an illegal invasion here. Please elaborate.

[bayourod]

His musings might be of interest to anyone interested in winning elections in California.