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U.N.: Weapons Equipment Missing in Iraq
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| 6/2/05
| Edith M. Lederer - AP
Posted on 06/02/2005 7:06:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Strategerist
You're using logic, common sense and knowledge here. Be very careful.
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posted on
06/02/2005 7:48:48 PM PDT
by
Arkie2
(No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
To: Strategerist
"It's talking about various industrial facilities, machines, etc. that could theoretically be used to MAKE WMDs, or make things that could then be used to make WMDs."
*YAWN*
Ever read the ISG report? Wanna link?
ISG stated that the programs still existed at low levels and the duel use items facilitated a quick ramping up of these programs when Saddam deemed the time is right.
You can split hairs all you want. Been there and done that. Fact remains Saddam had in his possession items he was not supposed to have for programs he wasn't supposed to have that could be placed on missiles he wasn't supposed to have that could go beyond the ranges his missiles were not supposed to go. P.S. Some of these machines you refer to can not just be looted, stolen, or secreted away in the middle of the night. They are large heavy and cumbersome. To move one takes cranes, lifts, trucks, and knowledge of how to move them.
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posted on
06/02/2005 7:50:27 PM PDT
by
baystaterebel
(F/8 and be there!)
To: NormsRevenge
Well... with regard to some of the stuff that is no longer there, it is probably fair to say that we've had something to do with that as well.
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posted on
06/02/2005 7:54:58 PM PDT
by
Ramius
To: Strategerist
Let's get us some of them long range missles to kill these school children helping the great satan.
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posted on
06/02/2005 7:55:57 PM PDT
by
alrea
(Help Wanted: New Jersey Dir. of Homeland Security; must be willing performer, handsome.)
To: NormsRevenge
Maybe all the weapons stuff went missing from UN monitored sites but I bet Scott Ritter knows where every little girl in his neighborhood lives.
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posted on
06/02/2005 8:01:18 PM PDT
by
WorkingClassFilth
(Fun Fact: Did you know that NEWSWEEK has killed more people than Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile?)
To: Itzlzha
Good post, right on the mark. Double standards all the way around for anyone anti-American.
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posted on
06/02/2005 8:05:57 PM PDT
by
SeaBiscuit
(God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
To: NormsRevenge
What a pile of steaming crap! While the U.N. was there, Saddam ferreted this sort of stuff around under their noses and they never saw it. Now that we're in control over there, the U.N. has come to the conclusion that it's missing?
r-i-g-h-t.
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posted on
06/02/2005 8:21:04 PM PDT
by
hiredhand
(My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
To: NormsRevenge
Help me out here ...
Is this article saying that the U.N. is using somebody's satellites (assume European) to spy on us in Iraq since we won't let them in anymore?
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posted on
06/02/2005 8:22:43 PM PDT
by
Pan_Yan
(All grey areas are fabrications.)
To: NormsRevenge
"have been blocked from returning to Iraq"
Bullfeathers. They got bombed once, and ran for the tall grass.
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posted on
06/02/2005 8:25:03 PM PDT
by
JasonC
To: tobyhill
What's with all this "duel" use exceptions?It's the ESCAPE CLAUSE for any condemnation or action ever being taken against IRAQ or any other country that has produced WMD and vows the annihilation of Western Civilisation.
Further proof the UN is USELESS!!
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posted on
06/02/2005 8:27:43 PM PDT
by
PISANO
(We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
To: Ramius
it is probably fair to say that we've had something to do with that as well.Some improverished countries can't build telco infrastructures because the copper wire is always being stolen, both before and after it's laid.
In Iraq, one would think anthrax cauldrons and other junk present the same commercial appeal to scrap hustlers.
And yes, some of it probably disappeared with a great BOOM, courtesy of the U.S. military.
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posted on
06/02/2005 8:35:12 PM PDT
by
angkor
To: NormsRevenge
We are talking about, "The report said 3,380 valves, 107 pumps, and more than 7.8 miles of pipes were known to have been located at the 39 chemical sites."
-pumps, valves and pipe. Gimme a break.
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posted on
06/02/2005 9:18:57 PM PDT
by
TomasUSMC
(FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
To: NormsRevenge
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posted on
06/02/2005 9:42:46 PM PDT
by
chaosagent
(It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
To: baystaterebel
A good friend tells me that his unit discovered many bunkers with hidden barrels of organophosphate pesticides(NOT LAYING AROUND ON THE FARM), along with binary rockets and mortar shells. GA, GB,VX and sarin are all organophosphate nerve weapons. I'm not a chemist but could these organophosphate pesticides be used as or turned into chemical weapons even if not as deadly as the name brands? If not, saddam sure went to great lengths to make us believe he had chemical weapons and guess what? We took him at his word.
I still believe that much went to syria, the bekka and iran.
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posted on
06/02/2005 9:59:02 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
(Dig deeper, more ammo.)
To: baystaterebel
Oh yeah! Remember al-Qaa Qaa? That was the site that was supposedly looted of hundreds of tons of high explosive, according to jfkerry, just before the election. Turns out the un was monitoring it but couldn't tell us when they saw it last. More of the same I guess. Doesn't matter if you could mix those chemicals to produce a nerve weapon. As long as they were labelled as pesticide, then that's what they were.
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posted on
06/02/2005 11:09:47 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
(Dig deeper, more ammo.)
To: NormsRevenge
What ..????
There isn't any WMD in Iraq .. that's what the media said ..?? and they had to be telling the truth didn't they ..??????
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posted on
06/02/2005 11:10:10 PM PDT
by
CyberAnt
(President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
To: baystaterebel; Strategerist
He said it could have been moved elsewhere in Iraq, sold as scrap, melted down or purchased.
He said the missing material can be used for legitimate purposes. "However, they can also be utilized for prohibited purposes if in a good state of repair."
He said imagery analysts have identified 109 sites that have been emptied of equipment to varying degrees, up from 90 reported in March.
What is really interesting in the last line "up from 90"?
....what is he getting at?
Why aren't these sites being guarded? We need more boots on the ground to wipe out these b@stards!
%~#*&%#*!!!!!!!!!!!
To: Itzlzha
Just who was lying?!?!Damn good point.
To: NormsRevenge
In the report to the U.N. Security Council, acting chief weapons inspector Demetrius Perricos said he's reached no conclusions about who removed the items or where they went. He said it could have been moved elsewhere in Iraq, sold as scrap, melted down or purchased.
How about the possibility of wmd's being transported to Syria during the buildup to gulf war II?
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posted on
06/02/2005 11:40:40 PM PDT
by
Pro-Bush
(Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
To: Strategerist
I see what you are getting at. What I am leery about is that no where in this article does it say when the UN received the satellite images or from whom. Why havent the images been given to our military to examine. From what I see is that they had stuff that could produce WMD at the flip of a switch. They also had banned long-range missiles that they were not supposed to have. Why wasnt this disclosed before? It sounds like someone is trying to set W up before Bolton gets in.
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posted on
06/03/2005 3:03:19 AM PDT
by
repubpub
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