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What kind of culture would embrace Paris Hilton?
Creators Syndicate ^ | June 1, 2005 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 06/01/2005 9:27:48 AM PDT by UltraConservative

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To: Melas

Sorry, but my newpaper tv listing said Bianca was the woman involved. Who knows? Who cares?


161 posted on 06/01/2005 12:16:29 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: UltraConservative
A society that fails to promote virtue is a society that promotes immorality.

Idiocy. By this "reasoning", a society that fails to provide welfare (in whatever amount its recipients care to demand) promotes destitution.

162 posted on 06/01/2005 12:19:35 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: myrabach
I was more free back there in the 50's[sic] than I am now

e.g. you didn't have to share a drinking fountain with them coloreds.

163 posted on 06/01/2005 12:23:27 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Melas

I used Amos and Andy as extreme example of censurship on the grounds of political correctness, but then to allow pornography as acceptable. I find Amos and Andy no more offensive than say Dukes of Hazzard or The Andy Griffith Show. I could give you so many more examples of stereotypical satire.

The Smothers Brothers show back in the day is a great example of extreme political satire programming that would never make it to a major network today.


164 posted on 06/01/2005 12:40:50 PM PDT by myrabach
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To: steve-b

No, I'm from the north... we shared drinking fountains. I never said life was perfect in the 50's, I said I had more liberties and that is true.


165 posted on 06/01/2005 12:44:47 PM PDT by myrabach
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To: myrabach
No, I'm from the north... we shared drinking fountains. I never said life was perfect in the 50's, I said I had more liberties and that is true.

Certain classes of people did have more power in the 50s. Many segments of the population had drastically less liberties in the 1950s than they do now.

We have become more socialistic which has eroded some liberties that employers enjoyed, but that has nothing to do with the striking down of decency laws.

166 posted on 06/01/2005 12:52:44 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Modernman

They are all morality based. All you are doing is arguing that a libertarian morals set should be used as a base, instead of Judeo-Christian morals. A valid POV, but a far cry from wanting the Government out of moral-enforcement.


167 posted on 06/01/2005 12:54:03 PM PDT by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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To: myrabach
I should have the absolute freedom to watch without being offensive.

So you believe you have an inherent right, guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution, not to be offended?

168 posted on 06/01/2005 12:55:54 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: myrabach
I might add that the Constitution allows for my right to be offended.

Well, then, since you obviously are offended, your rights have been upheld.

169 posted on 06/01/2005 12:56:03 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: JeffAtlanta

You don't think that disallowing a community to decide what is decent and what is not isn't an erosion of liberty?


170 posted on 06/01/2005 12:59:47 PM PDT by myrabach
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To: myrabach
Ahhh... and car insurance was OPTIONAL!!

so you can drive without responsibility? One only hopes that if you rammed into someone the favor was returned.

171 posted on 06/01/2005 1:00:45 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (In Mercuristan, such questions are not tolerated.)
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To: UltraConservative
The same culture that would market Rainbow Parties to teens.
172 posted on 06/01/2005 1:01:59 PM PDT by Quilla
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To: myrabach

The "right to be offended" is what led to political correctness.


173 posted on 06/01/2005 1:02:06 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (In Mercuristan, such questions are not tolerated.)
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To: UltraConservative
Ya know... Carl's Jr. is only in a handful of states. If idiots like Ben Shapiro would stop giving Paris Hilton (and Carl's Jr.) free publicity, stunts like this would die down in days, rather than weeks and months.

Some people and companies, like Paris Hilton, thrive on any type of publicity. Giving it to them only makes them stronger.
174 posted on 06/01/2005 1:04:35 PM PDT by birbear ("I reject your reality and substitute my own.")
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To: Bella_Bru

How do you figure you could drive without responsibility? YOU were responsible... YOU could choose how you accepted that responsibility. Insure yourself, or pay yourself.

My car insurance on MY decision was $98/yr. and reduced each year with a clean driving record. The year car insurance became mandatory, my premium increased to over $500 per year and increased each year after... clean driving record or not.

Please, you don't REALLY think mandatory insurance is a good thing? Unless of course, you own an insurance brokerage.


175 posted on 06/01/2005 1:09:03 PM PDT by myrabach
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To: myrabach
You don't think that disallowing a community to decide what is decent and what is not isn't an erosion of liberty?

Depends on how you look at it. Do you believe that the liberties of the community outweigh the liberties of the individual?

BTW, this is sort of a red herring. As a previous poster has pointed out, the idea that communities are disallowed from deciding what is decent is dubious.

176 posted on 06/01/2005 1:10:04 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Bella_Bru

I would think it was more the "right not to be offended" is what led to political correctness.


177 posted on 06/01/2005 1:12:07 PM PDT by myrabach
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To: myrabach
YOU were responsible... YOU could choose how you accepted that responsibility.

You might have been able to self insure, but a sizable segment of the population could not. When they hit someone, there was no way to collect the funds.

I agree that auto insurance companies are in bed with law enforcement and its a racket, but the requirement for automobile insurance is not a bad concept.

178 posted on 06/01/2005 1:12:43 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: myrabach

Auto insurance is currently a scam just as much as health insurance companies are running a scam. However, if you ram into me and you have no insurance then I am screwed. Which is always a possibility in Cali with all the uninsured illegal immigrants driving around.


179 posted on 06/01/2005 1:15:05 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (In Mercuristan, such questions are not tolerated.)
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To: JeffAtlanta

I believe that the liberties of the individual must be considered by the community. Ultimately, however the liberties of the community should prevail.

For instance, I would consider the argument by an individual that he or she finds the 10 Commandments in a courtroom to be offensive. However, when the community is not offended then the community should prevail. And this is because, suppose I, as an individual is offended by the removal of above, but another individual is offended by the addition of the above. Whose offense should be considered? Do we not have equal rights? If so, whose rights should prevail?


180 posted on 06/01/2005 1:20:03 PM PDT by myrabach
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