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What the ‘Average Joe’ Can Do About Porn…and Why - (caution; for adult readers only)
CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA.ORG ^ | MAY 24, 2005 | SARA BRODE

Posted on 05/24/2005 1:42:28 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: Hildy

Well who is the husband paying attention to when he's wanking to a porn video? Not his wife that's for sure.


441 posted on 05/24/2005 5:30:40 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

I don't dialogue with people who start out calling me an idiot. Have a nice evening.


442 posted on 05/24/2005 5:31:13 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: LogicalMs

"You want a nanny government, just a different one than the Democrats do."



of COURSE they do.
That's the whole point. A dominionist theocracy is their goal...


443 posted on 05/24/2005 5:33:35 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (The minutemen are 'vigilantes' doncha know?)
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To: AntiGuv
The underlying topics you raise should be confronted for what they are, and porn can then become whatever it will be to whatever extent they are resolved.

My view is, they go hand and hand. The issues associated with production are a direct consequence of the product being produced. In my estimation, the industry can't be "cleaned up" in any substantial way because of the types of people who choose to be involved with pornography. Porn will always need damaged girls and heartless bastards willing to exploit them for an easy buck... and everybody's going to need their coke. That stuff can't be changed or regulated. It's the nature of the industry.

444 posted on 05/24/2005 5:34:17 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: cyborg

So we're back to my original example. If I don't want my children to drink wine, I shouldn't either. If I don't want my children to have sex, I shouldn't either. And religion is a personal choice.


445 posted on 05/24/2005 5:36:09 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: unbalanced but fair

Yep okay. Whatever suits you. As long as you aren't a christian believing porn is fine and in line with your religion like the unitarians.


446 posted on 05/24/2005 5:36:58 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

"Except that folk don't understand"



there is NONE so blind as he who WILL NOT see.

removing the tax exempt status of antifreedom religious bigot groups would go a long way towards wiping this baloney out... all at once. Including the fundamentalist 'we must be in control of everyone's else's sex life to be truly free as God intended' nuts of every strype.

My firm belief is that the CWA uses these phony articles to fund raise here amongst freepers. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the proponents of this 'in your neighbor's condom' gaggle of church lady types, were actually on the board and getting paid by this 'non profit' to work the boards.

not one bit.


447 posted on 05/24/2005 5:38:14 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (The minutemen are 'vigilantes' doncha know?)
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To: cyborg

I don't dialogue with idiots who try to bait people into showing pornography to minors.


448 posted on 05/24/2005 5:39:14 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (The minutemen are 'vigilantes' doncha know?)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Huh? You're crazy. I never said that but do continue in your delusion.


449 posted on 05/24/2005 5:39:58 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg
I don't make judgments about peoples' religious beliefs without knowing them. And I have no use for people who do. By the way, I can't be the father role model but my son thinks I did a pretty good job as the mother role model. Even though I drank wine and had sex.
450 posted on 05/24/2005 5:40:44 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: unbalanced but fair

Okay whatever. We disagree. Have a nice evening.


451 posted on 05/24/2005 5:43:18 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg

"If it's good for you, should be good for your children too."



you said that.
You insinuated that I said it was good for me.
I did not say it was good for ME.
I said no such thing, but that I never view it or use it in any way.

You are therefore not telling the truth.
Stop using the commision of illegal acts by adults against minors, to justify your proven false and clearly dishonest position. And stop lying about what I said and what you twisted into meaning something else.

you clearly recommend that folks who HAVE viewed porn, and used it, to show it to their kids, in violation of the law.

Do you recommend folks give their kids jack daniels too?


452 posted on 05/24/2005 5:46:17 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (The minutemen are 'vigilantes' doncha know?)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

I don't see where you are getting all that from what I said. If you don't want your children to look at porn, why look at it yourself? Parents are supposed to be the moral authority of the home. A marriage is the union of man and woman. The ten commandments aren't ten suggestions. I wasn't accusing YOU of anything. If that doesn't clarify things, I don't know what else to say. We'll have to disagree as dialoguing futher with you is making me real uncomfortable.


453 posted on 05/24/2005 5:49:15 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: WKB; cyborg; Melas; tacticalogic

WKB,

it is not that we who disagree with you on this are simple-minded, it is that your point is itself too simple-minded for us to bother refuting over and over again.

You keep claiming that failure to show porn to children indicates in some way that we recognize that porn is unwholesome.

Not so.

As I said in an earlier post: I would not allow a kid of mine to skydive until he or she was mature enough to handle the activity. This in no way indicates that I am ashamed of having jumped out of airplanes or that I am ashamed to have thoroughly enjoyed the experience.
(Nor, for that matter, does this experience or my enjoyment of it indicate that I am "addicted" to it.)

Skydiving is serious adult fun, not to be meddled with or dabbled in by those unready for it... and a kid ain't ready for it.

Similarly, though I have trained seven-year-olds in the proper care and use of a Ruger 10-22 .22cal.lr, I have not and will not teach one so young to handle a 3"magnum 12ga shotgun or a bullpup AK47 - the kid ain't ready for it.

"The kid isn't mature enough for it" does not equate to "it is unwholesome because I will not get a kid involved in it."

If at this point you cannot see the error in the argument you have been presenting, there is no hope anyone will ever make it clearer to you.


454 posted on 05/24/2005 5:49:18 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: King Prout

I never heard of anyone being a addicted to a 22 rifle.
OR raping anyone after looking at one.


455 posted on 05/24/2005 5:51:07 PM PDT by WKB (You can half the good and double the bad people say about themselves.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Good luck. I've tried to get an answer too. People post things and apparently have no idea how it's going to be perceived or interpreted. Or maybe they do, and play dense.
456 posted on 05/24/2005 5:51:42 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: King Prout

I would not call people simple minded BUT a man is the head of the home. He leads his children and is supposed to be a role model to them, esp. sons. Ten commandments,not ten suggestions.


457 posted on 05/24/2005 5:51:52 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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458 posted on 05/24/2005 5:53:52 PM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: WKB
you have never heard an analogously STUPID position fielded by the gun-grabbing loons? "gun nuts" and "gun-culture" and "culture of violence" does not ring a bell?

doctors can perform a simple proceedure to remove the wax that seems to be clogging your ears.

459 posted on 05/24/2005 5:55:35 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: cyborg

"If you don't want your children to look at porn, why look at it yourself?"

".... I wasn't accusing YOU of anything."



you, your and you... isn't accusing ME?
rofl.
very very dishonest cy.


I already said, "I don't" so stop sticking the "you" and "your" in there.

as to dialoguing...
and your discomfort?
fine. don't then.

when YOU use the accusatory words of YOU and YOURS and then aim it at ME and MINE and shrug that "I never said it was YOU..." you expose your nature as regarding the truth of YOUR words.

KNOW THAT YOU DID ACCUSE ME.
YOU DID.
cut it out, please.
thanks.
good evening.


460 posted on 05/24/2005 5:56:05 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (The minutemen are 'vigilantes' doncha know?)
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