1. Hillary Clinton will be the Democrat nominee in 2008. The only possible way she isn't, is if she chooses not to run.
2. John McCain knows that he can easily beat Hillary in the general election. His BIG problem is getting the GOP nomination. More about that a little later.
3. Democrats will filabuster W.'s SC nominees. It is a given. It is what they do. They are programmed that way..their base will exert unbelievable pressure if they do not.
Now, a few words about McCain. Despite the scorn with which many here hold him, we can say two positive things about him:
1. He is staunchly pro-life. This has never been questioned.
2. He is a strong supporter of the War on Terror, and all that President Bush has done to wage it.
However, he's done a great many things that have really upset the GOP base since 2000, and despite all his efforts ( like campaigning for and with W in 2004, hugging him onstage, delivering a GREAT speech at the 2004 convention...including lampooning and harpooning Michael Moore) he remains wildly unpopular with the base. And he has Bill Frist, a potential 2008 rival, starting to act like a leader, giving the base what it wants in pushing the nuclear option in the Senate. So, what's a guy to do?
Remember, McCain spent years in a POW camp in Vietnam. He understands human nature, strategy, and the need to think many moves in advance in the political chess game. And note his most fervent acolyte, Lindsey Graham. Though many here don't like him now..remember his performance during the impeachment proceedings. He was superb. And he has a very astute political mind.
So, then, why concoct this insipid compromise. Surely McCain and Graham know that the issue will be back in the forefront as soon as a SC nomination comes up. Everyone knows that. And the Dems will filabuster. Indeed, McCain is counting on it.
Right now, he has accomplished the following:
1. Frist is neutered, possibly severely wounded
2. McCain is the absolute darling of the MSM. He will have a superb press, a heightened profile ( even without the movie) and gain a great deal of support among independents and middle-of -the road Democrats, who do not like the hard left direction of their party.
He can do no wrong.
So, some time this year, when the Dems ramp up their filabuster of the SC nominees, look for McCain to stand up and announce publicly that the trust he placed in the Dems promise was misstaken. That he was wrong, and that right now it is necessary that the GOP move immediately to invoke the nuclear option and give all the president's nominees an up-or-down vote.
I ask you, whom do evangelicals ( social conservatives) love more than the self-admitted sinner who has confessed, and has now seen the true light. Come home, our brother John, all is forgiven. We embrace you. And BTW, please accept our nomination to be President.
The MSM will be powerless to criticize McCain, or take the Dems side. And along with McCain, will come all 7 GOP senators who signed the compromise. And, as an early Christmas bonus for the base, Nebraska Senator Nelson will cross the aisle, join the GOP, and run in 2006 as a Republican ( why do you think Gov Johanns took the Agricultural Secretary post in the Bush administration? He "knew" that the Senate seat wouldn't be open)
And here's the real kicker...In this week's Newsweek story on McCain ( I know, it's Newsweek, but they do get it right once in a while) there's a blind item, quoting a senior aide to McCain that he has already spoken to Karl Rove about running McCain's campaign in 2008. Everyone says preposterous. Everyone assumes that Bush, Rove and the whole team couldn't stand McCain, let alone work for him...well, here it comes, folks....McCain need a running mate...and who better than.. JEB BUSH .....THAT'S RIGHT..YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST..
McCain/Bush 2008!!!
And have no doubt..there is an ironclad understanding that McCain will be a one-term president. Given his age, and health, that's reasonable. He might even step down in his 4th year, to let Jeb step in and run as an incumbent. Does anyone who knows anything about the Bush family think that they don't want the TRIFECTA? This guarantees it..
Remember that after the 2008 election, there is a census in 2010, and a redistricting of the House, and the red states will gain 7-10, or more Electoral votes, at the expense of the blue states, and the EV math for the Dems becomes well nigh impossible.
One more thing..our friend Lndsey Graham? The operating genius, along with Rove, behind all of this. What's in it for him. Well, he'll have his Senate seat for life. And with Frist retiring in 2006, look for Graham to run for Majority Leader....he's like Michael Corleone..making a strong move at a young age.. He wil have brought Nelson over to the GOP before the 2006 race, and after the 2006 results, when the Dems lose a few more Senate seats, look for Graham to bring over Pryor, and possibly one or two more.. He can offer them seniority and commitee assignments...and he can rule the Senate like it hasn't been done since Lyndon Johnson..and in 2020, after Jeb's 2nd term is over, if he wants to run for the WH, well, he's a relatively young man.
Well, there you have it. So, rejoice...and as for the Dems..well, after losing more seats in 2006 in both houses..look for Dean Reid, and Pelosi to be dumped, and a huge fight for the carcass of the Dem party. Hillary can have the nomination, but it won't be worth a plug nickle.
And that's why today there is a great dark cloud over the Clinton manse in Chappaqua..She knows that any dream of ever getting back inside the WH is now gone forever.
I've been saying since the last general election that I believe McCain will be the GOP nominee. I don't want him, but if it comes to McCain versus The Hildabeast, obviously I'll vote to stop the 'beast. People say they'd vote for Hellary instead because at least they know where she stands, well how could the unknown be any worse?
my 2 cents: Zell Miller/Condi Rice or vice versa for 2008
I don't play golf full time right now in my life. I am only 31. But boy do I see my schedule filled with playing golf in November 2008. Count me and my money out of 2008 if McCain is the nominee. I would rather vote for Sammy Hagar for Prez than this scam artist.
The thing is...my family agrees and so do many friends. The GOP is gonna have a bitch of a time trying to pull funds from the base like they did with W/Cheney if they put McCain on the ticket with their full support.
Jeb doesn't need to be running yet. 2012 is a good time for him if even then.
McCain will get lots of Democrat votes from people afraid to see Hillary as Commander-in-Chief.
Nice fantasy.
Republicans will never trust McCain with the nomination. However, McCain has positioned himself perfectly to switch parties and run for president as a Democrat. If he had the guts to switch parties, the momentum that he would generate could sweep Hillary in the primaries. He would be very formidable in a national election as many Red states would be up for grabs (McCain in AZ, McCain and Byrd in WV, McCain and Lindsay in SC, and don't forget FL!) while the Blue would happily choose a moderate Democrat over any of the conservatives that will likely end up with the the Republican nomination.
Have you tapped Hillary's phone?
Fun story. I like the part where the wicked witch of the West is melting. ;-)
My advice to you would be to call the orderly and ask him to double your dosage.
The wedge issue in America is the war on terror. If the threat of terrorism ceases to be an issue by 2008, the Democrats have a shot. If not, Hillary could act like General Patton and she wouldn't win.
Ken, you have completely missed IT! The Demonrats will be running Hitlery / McCain!!! Now that I would pay to see! Two completely amoral and mentally incompetent fools running together while each tries to slit the other's throat! LOL!
Let's get this straight. John McCain sucks.
John McCain takes good care of John McCain. His loyalty to anything ends there.
McCain will never get my vote with or without Jeb Bush.
Why would I be fool enough to elect a president sure to stab me in the back when I most need someone to stand up for my views?
I predict he will join with Hillary as Vice-President for the Democrats.
Granted, Demwits are not known for making the most intelligent choices, but I don't think they'll actually give Hill-da-beast the nomination.
Right now it's great speculation and fun for them to fantasize, but I don't think they can put her up there on a hope and a prayer (as if they ever would) that her baggage doesn't come back to bite them. I think their view is that it will just be too much at stake to take that much of a risk.
Personally, as long as we have a solid Conservative to put up, I hope they do give the beast the nomination. I look forward to seeing the klintoon name being dragged through the mud, slime and gutter all over again. Nothing would make me happier than leaving the klintoon name in shambles as they are kicked out of D.C. for good.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0504robb04.html
For '08 election, plant Rove seeds now
May. 4, 2005 12:00 AM
EXCERPT
The conventional wisdom among Republicans is that Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee in 2008. And the conventional wisdom among political handicappers is that you need a star to compete with a star, which has floated the names of Arizona Sen. John McCain and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to the top of the Republican list.
Rove won't discuss 2008 presidential aspirants. But he does make an interesting observation about the trend in presidential nominating politics.
He thinks 2008 might depart from what he describes as the '80s and '90s model, in which candidates parlay national standing and status into the nomination. Reagan, Bush I and Dole were all national political figures when they began their quest for the nomination.
Instead, Rove thinks there may be a reversion back to what he describes as the '60s model, in which candidates earn support by grassroots, retail politicking.
If so, the candidates who will ultimately have the inside track aren't necessarily those on the talk shows, but those making connections with party and conservative-cause activists.
In other words, those tending to the same political gardens Rove cultivated to beat the Democrats at the turnout game.
Terri is dead and you've all gone back to sleep. I had severe insomnia for over a month, so distraught was I at her murder. So I wasn't sleeping. I will never forget what a weenie he was. And Bush. And the Congress. All helpless to prevent the death of one innocent woman. And Michael Schiavo gets away with murder. Nice!
That being said, if I should be presented with the choice of Hillary Clinton vs. John McCain in 2008, I will vote for John McCain without a second thought.
If anyone wants to question my conservative credentials, go ahead. I've been an activist for three decades, probably longer than some of you have been alive, and when I look at myself in the mirror in the a.m., I'm the only one whose opinion as to what I am really matters to me.
What we face in this country is too important for anyone to abstain from the process. Basically, I'm not going to sit around hoping the Rapture happens before 2008.
Let the flames begin.
Wrong, Rudy just got the endorsement from Pat Robertson under the radar today. Rudy/Condi '08?
Hillary will be President in 2008 and we'llnever have a conservative Supreme Court nominee sworn in.....ever!
ken....this seems awfully farfetched....
..more hopeful...slightly more hopeful than Tator's....but still.....