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CAFTA is the answer to China's growing power
The Seattle Times ^ | May 24, 2005 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 05/24/2005 7:08:18 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

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To: 1rudeboy

I'm surprised he can take the time off from his lawn mowing and hedge trimming to post here. Maybe he has a crew of illegals working for him.....


121 posted on 05/24/2005 11:35:01 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Karl Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Maybe he has a federally-subsidized SBA loan?


122 posted on 05/24/2005 11:36:04 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

More like a federally-subsidized BS loan.


123 posted on 05/24/2005 11:42:08 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Karl Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: investigateworld
As fat as we are, sugar should be kept high, either via tariffs or domestic subsidizing laws.

You do understand that your body doesn't know the difference between table sugar or any other carbohydrate. They all end up as glucose and can make you fat if you consume too much and don't exercise.

Are you saying we should tax all carbohydrates like bread, pasta, potatoes, cereal, rice, honey, etc. so people don't eat too much of them and become fat?

Nuts are loaded with both fat and starch. I'll bet you really want a big tax on peanuts so we stop all the deleterious effects consuming them can cause. Milk is also high in sugar. Should we tax it more to reduce consumption?

Just where does your "do gooding" end?

More proof that a small amount of knowledge in a particular area is very dangerous.

More government intervention being advocated by protectionists masquerading as conservatives.

124 posted on 05/24/2005 12:00:17 PM PDT by Mase
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To: Mase; investigateworld
More proof that a small amount of knowledge in a particular area is very dangerous.

Resulting in the notion that Google is a substitute for critical or serious thought. Is Karl Rove gay? Type in rove+gay. Voila! Proof!

125 posted on 05/24/2005 12:12:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: hedgetrimmer
No it doesn't. Those manufacturers would have never relocated in a third world country until the "trade barrier" caused by our food safety standards was lowered.

Still didn't read the articles I see. I suppose it really doesn't matter though. As long as they disagree with you they'll just be labeled as liars.

May I remind you that American children got hepatitis from Mexican strawberries and that American citizens died from ingesting Mexican green onions?

Yeah, no American ever died from food borne illness before Mexican produce was imported.

I suppose the ground beef that killed those kids at Jack in the Box years ago was also imported from Mexico? No, wait. It was domestic beef that was responsible for that. Imagine that.

You have made it abundantly clear that you will only believe what you want to believe, facts notwithstanding. Now I know why we get so precious few of them from you.

126 posted on 05/24/2005 12:14:01 PM PDT by Mase
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To: Mase
Don't forget that, in most cases, it is impossible to determine where food gets contaminated. The Chi-Chi's green onions may have been contaminated at the farm, or during their preparation at the restaurant. In the Chi-Chi's case, I'm not sure if the if the source of the contamination was ever determined.
127 posted on 05/24/2005 12:17:50 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

The source was Mexico. The cause was use of sewage to irrigate row crops which is legal in Mexico.


128 posted on 05/24/2005 12:21:43 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Mase

If you read the NAFTA you will see that food safety standards are considered a "barrier to trade".


129 posted on 05/24/2005 12:23:09 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Oh, quit the BS.


130 posted on 05/24/2005 12:26:15 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: hedgetrimmer
The source was Mexico. The cause was use of sewage to irrigate row crops which is legal in Mexico.

Source? I am curious, really.

131 posted on 05/24/2005 12:26:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Don't forget that, in most cases, it is impossible to determine where food gets contaminated.

Absolutely correct. Bottom line is, even with the dramatic increase in imported food, our food supply has never been safer.

I'm just waiting for someone to claim that it's the illegals in the restaurants who are responsible for such contaminations. It's got to be them, free trade, WalMart or Bush.

132 posted on 05/24/2005 12:28:16 PM PDT by Mase
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To: 1rudeboy

Standards providing more protection to consumers or public health can be challenged as unfair barriers to trade before dispute resolution panels established by both NAFTA and the WTO.


133 posted on 05/24/2005 12:35:54 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Care to name one?


134 posted on 05/24/2005 12:40:20 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Nowhere Man

THANKS.

Prayer and walking as closely with God as we can manage are increasingly crucial, essential and life or death habits, issues in our era . . . imho.


135 posted on 05/24/2005 12:48:37 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: Mase
Don't forget that, in most cases, it is impossible to determine where food gets contaminated.

This is absolutely untrue. The minute the contamination was confirmed the FDA sent inspectors who followed the whole food chain back to Mexico.
136 posted on 05/24/2005 12:55:17 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Mase

Raw sewage in Mexico was the cause. You are throwing out red herrings to protect the globalists.


137 posted on 05/24/2005 12:56:09 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Again, I'm simply interested if you are speculating, because my understanding is that the PA Dept. of Health and the FDA were unable to determine to source of the contamination. If you have the info., please provide it.


138 posted on 05/24/2005 12:57:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Oh, no.

We're not seeing a lowered standard of living. We're just seeing record bankruptcies, a nonexistent savings rate, record time between jobs, and if the unemployment rate were really 5%, Bush would have been reelected in a landslide.


139 posted on 05/24/2005 12:59:03 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham

Don't forget record household net worth.


140 posted on 05/24/2005 1:00:56 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Karl Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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