Posted on 05/23/2005 8:50:09 AM PDT by Asphalt
I assume you are being sarcastic. 8^>
I assume you are being sarcastic. 8^>
You dont know him but you can know of him. Surely you arent saying that we should kill LIVING babies!
Thats what happened not too long ago. Sun Hudson. Read up professor.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=sun+hudson
http://www.nbc5.com/health/4286333/detail.html??z=dp&dpswid=1167317&dppid=65194
Yeah you should have a hard time taking me seriously, your completely dismissing fact.
Kids are starving right now, this instant and it isnt because some fat kid stole their lunch money.
I suspected as much, and thus only criticized your legal reasoning about the application of the 'right' to minors, and included the parenthetical 'unfortuantely'.
Yes, it is best left to the states, as it was before Roe. I say that even though I would very much like to limit abortions to 'triage' abortions, in which the child must be sacrificed to save the life of the mother (I might be content to grant an exception for rape and incest--though as an Orthodox Christian, I believe that abortion is homocide, and thus in almost all circumstances murder, I am not certain that the state has a place forcing women to bear the podvig (a term in our tradition for a spiritual burden) of carrying to term a child engendered by rape or incest).
So you can bring the tax dollars in the mix but I cant mention how were killing living kids like Sun Hudson?
Ok since were on the tax dollar subject lets talke about the 15 billion in pork that got shoved through.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-11-21-budget-bill-extras_x.htm
$75,000 for renovating the Merry Go Round Playhouse in Auburn, N.Y.
$100,000 for a weather museum in Punxsutawney, Pa.
$800,000 for "soybean rust research" in Ames, Iowa.
$75,000 for "hides and leather research" in Wyndmoor, Pa.
$1,593 for potato storage in Madison, Wis.
$1 million for a world birding center, Texas.
$150,000 to pay for beaver management and damage in Wisconsin.
$200,000 for the American Cotton Museum in Greenville, Texas.
$100,000 for a swimming pool in Ottawa, Kan.
$70,000 for a "Paper Industry International Hall of Fame" in Appleton, Wis.
$1.5 million for the Rep. Richard Gephardt Archive at the Missouri Historical Society.
Those are some of the pork projects going on right now...which one is your favorite? I like the Paper Industrys Hall of Fame the best (sarcasm).
I came from Mom and Dad. I was part of him, then her but not the actual individual me until I was out of the womb, umbilical cut.
I also come from Nevada but thats a different story.
Whered you come from?
I'm bringing the tax issue into the debate as it pertains to abortion. You're chasing a red herring. We all agree that government spends to much money on junk. Do you also agree that abortion should not be federally funded? Or do you favor government funding abortions? That's a pretty simple straight forward question regarding abortion, which is the topic of this thread.
...or a human.
Which individual?
Cordially,
Fair question I think the person should pay for it on their own. Of course wheres a teenage kid going to get cash for an abortion? Parents probably. So maybe theyll have to do what you want anyways and talk to the parents about it.
I could go on and on about situations I see right now. Messed up kids living with grandma and grandpa, who arent thrilled because their kids were irresponsable with birth control then ditched the babies.
I think its crazy that I get flamed for suggesting that parents should take some responsability earlier and teach their kids about sex. If you made sex illegal what would happen? Its like some people have the same logic as prohibition. Make it illegal and it will never happen. Right....
What I dont understand is how people can say Im into baby killing and have no explanation for Sun Hudson or cases Ive seen like kids with spinal bifeda where there is so much pain that I think they would have been better off aborted. But notice I NEVER say that I am the ONE to make that DECISION for them. All in all Id rather be more on the side of freedom for people to choose whether to bring a kid into a horrible situation healthwise or a abusive home. Or even a perfect situation but maybe the parents want to be more secure and mature.
Sun Hudson, since some people wont even click a link was
"A critically ill 5-month-old baby who Texas Children's Hospital says cannot be saved was to be taken off life support after a judge's ruling lifted an injunction that had prevented doctors from halting care they believe is futile."
How did your life begin?
Cordially,
The individual who is carrying the baby.
Do you think you should make that choice for them?
I think youd say a miracle of God or something.
If you want to know when life begins IMO it's when your umbilical is cut. Until then you arent an individual.
Carrying the what?
If you want to know when life begins IMO it's when your umbilical is cut. Until then you arent an individual.
Your statement is not connected to reality, as you yourself tacitly admit above.
Cordially,
More examples of loose and tangential speech?
So your against abortion but dont give a flying @$%@ about a kid that starves to death or is put to death like Sun Hudson?
How humane of you....
Im basically saying its hypocracy to have your viewpoint.
You are against abortions but have no plan for someone who will be abandoned, neglected or abused. What, is Mark in the Old South going to adopt them all? Who are you to decide for them? Who died and made you the Queen of England?
Speaking of coy whats up with that fat kid stealing lunch money comment. Your joking about starving kids? I dont find that very funny but humor over the internet is a little bit hard to read I guess.
lovely argument but didnt address the points Ive said.
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