Debate and Delay (Senate showdown on Bolton & judges includes Biden trade/No getting rid of Dean)

The American Prowler ^ | 5/20/2005 | The Prowler

[taxesareforever]

The demorats have no shame at all and if the Republicans cave in to dealing with them they will be considered losers in my book.

[Arkie2]

Dean, Reid and Pelosi. The three stooges of the Democratic party. I'm glad they're leading the charge but you have to wonder how they came up with those guys. This is one time I agree with Carville though. Throw those three an anvil!

[gakrak]

I just wonder if good old Hillary might have something to do with getting rid of those three? She may feel the need to get her own thugs in to help her with the Pres thing. Amen.

[patj]

The problem is Dean hasn't really been in the public eye," says the Democratic operative. "At least not nationally. The appearance on Meet the Press [this coming Sunday] will really help clarify for people just how desperate we need to be."

Thar ya go, MM. He will finally be making an appearance.

[Miss Marple]

Yes, I saw that yesterday. I maintain that Russert is going to really lay into him, in order (as this article suggests) to show the democrats how horrible a leader he is.

Lots of people think Russert will be all warm and fuzzy; I don't think so. The DNC cannot afford another disastrous fundraising period. Dean's big claim to fame was his fundraising ability, which I have maintained all along was a big sham. Now that it is shown that he is NOT good at fundraising, they cannot afford to have him as spokeperson.

They knew he wasn't any good as a spokesperson; that is why the liberal media has avoided having him on TV.

[patj]

that is why the liberal media has avoided having him on TV.

Therefore, the liberal media is having him on now at the request of the dems and the media continues to march along in lockstep. I know the leadership of the dems never wanted him in the first place, but the state level people that voted him leader must now be shown that he is a loser for them. I wonder if Dean knows the long knives are out for him.

[Qwinn]

I disagree. Russert will be quite warm and fuzzy.

I understand your reasons for feeling otherwise... and it would in fact be the smart thing for them to do... but partisanship has been trumping intelligence for the Dems for decades. They're not about to wise up now.

We'll see on Sunday. If I'm wrong, I'll be happy to admit it and eat my words.

Qwinn

[Peach]

Any conservative who actually trusted the Democrats to keep their word on this matter are naive in the extreme.

[ClaireSolt]

I had no intention of watching Meet the Press until I read that you guys think it may be interesting. Dean is such an egomaniac, I think he truly believes he is the Democratic wing of the democratic party. With Hillary's Rosen on trial and Dean in the hot seat, who is the Dem leader? blubbering Byrd?

[Pepper777]

" They knew he wasn't any good as a spokesperson; that is why the liberal media has avoided having him on TV. "

I agree! So typical of the MSM, to work with the DNC to protect their image. The media is nothing but another arm of the DNC.

[ken5050]

They can't toss Dean. MveOn runs the Dem party..they would go apes**t..they were the ones who got him the post, remember..this is all a smokescreen..

[ken5050]

However, after the 2006 election, when the Dems lose seats in BOTH houses again, then Reid, Pelosi, AND Dean get tossed..

[gaspar]

The Democrats are playing poker with a pair of dueces. Unfortunately, they are playing against old, slow Uncle Ned who can't remember if a pair of aces is high or low.

[Miss Marple]

There is an article in The American Prowler today which says that lots of dems want people to watch Dean on MTP to see how awful he is so that they can push to get rid of him.

Now, whether this is Rat obfuscation or not, I don't know. We will just have to wait and see how he performs on Sunday.

However, I think that even if Dean IS softballed by Russert, he will STILL come across as an angry, arrogant, nutcase. That has been my experience with him from watching his past appearances.

[Miss Marple]

Oh, this IS the American Prowler thread! I thought this was the OTHER thread on which I was discussing this.

Nevermind.

I think I will go get more coffee (slinking away in embarassment).

[auboy]

According to several Democratic staffers on the Foreign Relations Committee

says one of the Democratic staffers

according to Senate Democratic leadership sources

On Thursday, rumors were swirling in the Capitol, and in the press

says a Republican staffer for a member of the Judiciary Committee

According to Senate Republican sources

says a Republican Judiciary source

According to Democrat leadership sources

This kind of "reporting" infuriates me.

[reformedliberal]

Dean's big claim to fame was his fundraising ability, which I have maintained all along was a big sham. Now that it is shown that he is NOT good at fundraising, they cannot afford to have him as spokeperson.

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I keep wondering just how much money is still available to the donks. The billionaires have dropped so much down the rat hole these past few years that they must be demanding a lot more control in exchange for any more cash. The grassroots are constantly being scammed for donations for this or that activist, like Stephenson or the BBV kerfluffle that they must be either somewhat tapped out or overwhelmed with skepticism.

If we are telling the RNC Not A Dime until we see results, why would the donks just keep giving until they bleed? Thinking Dean's email list could still be golden seems delusional, IMO.

They have empowered the radical wing to the point where the party as a whole may no longer have any control. If they get rid of Dean, does MoveOn, et al, just go with him?

[Qwinn]

Consider my words eaten. I got through about a third of the transcript and decided that you were right. It cannot be said that Russert was "warm and fuzzy" with him at all. He was actually pretty tough. No doubt it will be used as evidence of "conservative media bias" by the moonbats, but I think you're quite correct about the motivation behind it.

Qwinn