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Cancer patient from Meredith ordered by judge to pay bill
Laconia Citizen ^ | May 19, 2005 | Bea Lewis

Posted on 05/19/2005 7:14:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble

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What say you? Hospitals are under increasing pressure from the Feds to aggressively collect these accounts. Medicare takes the view that, if you aren't aggressively collecting, any billing you do of the government (knowing you will be paid), is fraudulent.

However, these stories create enormous anger and resentment aginst hospitals among the public they serve.

What say you?

1 posted on 05/19/2005 7:14:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble

Solution: Become a Mexican Citizen and come here illegally, you are covered. (scarcasm)


2 posted on 05/19/2005 7:18:37 AM PDT by StuLongIsland
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"The couple didn't have insurance when the diagnosis was made. They'd dropped their coverage and used the added cash to help bolster the operation of their antique and used furniture shop."

I've had people tell me that, "Doctors make lots of money and I don't need to pay the bill."


3 posted on 05/19/2005 7:21:27 AM PDT by OpusatFR (I live in a swamp and reuse, recycle, refurbish, grow my own, ride a bike and vote gop)
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To: Jim Noble

They hospital provided a fee for services, as agreed to in their contract with the patient. The patient owes the fee. They chose to drop thier insurance.


4 posted on 05/19/2005 7:21:50 AM PDT by ctlpdad
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To: Jim Noble

I don't really know what to say. It's truely a conundrum. Expenses for medical care have skyrocketed out of sight and out of the reach of the average person if they don't have insurance (or are an illegal alien). Then again, 30 years ago they were not able to treat and cure many of the diseases they routinely cure today.
I do know that 28 years ago, when my first child was born I got the hospital bill (don't remember how much it was, but to us at the time it was an unmanagible sum of money--and like alot of stupid young people we had no health insurance). I panicked, and called them. A nice lady said, "Honey, don't worry, pay something every month until it's paid off. As long as you send us something, even $10.00, you're ok." It took awhile to pay it off, but we paid every penny. Today, I guess I would have to take out a second mortgage.
As I said, it's a conundrum.
susie


5 posted on 05/19/2005 7:22:00 AM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: Jim Noble

Which is it? Medicare or Medicaid?


6 posted on 05/19/2005 7:22:04 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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The couple didn't have insurance when the diagnosis was made. They'd dropped their coverage and used the added cash to help bolster the operation of their antique and used furniture shop.


You make your decision and then live with it. It is called risk management. Personally, I opt for a high deductible insurance and use an msa.


7 posted on 05/19/2005 7:22:22 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: StuLongIsland

Hey - it is the sad , sad truth . Welcome to Mexamerica . Unreal ...unbelievable ...Don't forget - Jorge loves ya !


8 posted on 05/19/2005 7:22:45 AM PDT by sushiman
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The couple didn't have insurance when the diagnosis was made. They'd dropped their coverage and used the added cash to help bolster the operation of their antique and used furniture shop.
9 posted on 05/19/2005 7:23:09 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore
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The hospital is charging 4 percent interest daily...

This can't be correct. Can it?

10 posted on 05/19/2005 7:23:22 AM PDT by FreePaul
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>Criasia predicts more people will be unable to afford health insurance and will be saddled with huge medical bills if they get sick

What's this story's point?
That doctors should treat people
for free? Or we all

should chip in to pay
the doctors who treat poor folk?
Where's the thread going?

11 posted on 05/19/2005 7:23:31 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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What say you?

I'd say this is a big problem. I suppose there might be options like "I can't pay for this so I'll just live (or die) with a tumor" or they could have sold their house in advance and moved toward medicaid more rapidly which is what will happen to them anyway.

12 posted on 05/19/2005 7:23:42 AM PDT by rhombus
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while it is easy to feel sorry for a person that has cancer and needs help, notice that the couple decided to DROP their insurance coverage in order to put their money into an Antique Business. There is much more to this story than is covered in the article. As in many news stories, it is what not reported that may tell the REAL tale.


13 posted on 05/19/2005 7:24:37 AM PDT by q_an_a
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They chose to drop their insurance.

Maybe they simply couldn't afford to keep it. I know Universal Health Care is not the answer (I lived in too many countries where that was offered -- to disastrous consequences.) But health care costs here are too high.

14 posted on 05/19/2005 7:25:12 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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I say we all just pretend to be illegal aliens. Or we put all our property and possessions in the name of someone else (we could all swap) under the agreement that it is really still ours. Then, we could all claim poverty and just show up at the emergency room when we need medical care.

Hey, it works for that part of the population (legal and illegal) that are bankrupting the hospitals. Once again, the law-abiding and those trying to pull their own weight are treated like dogs while those we take care of walk all over us.
15 posted on 05/19/2005 7:25:49 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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"... Become a Mexican Citizen and come here illegally, you are covered. (sarcasm)"

Hmm I'm not sure I disagree with that ;) I've been tossing that idea around for a while now. Become and illegal and now pay taxes, get free health care, become a protected CRIMINAL in certain cities/states, and get instate tuition at the college of my choosing for my kids.

You can still be a patriotic illegal alien right? And if they deport me where would they deport me too? (other than Leavenworth Pen)
16 posted on 05/19/2005 7:26:35 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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From the article:

The couple didn't have insurance when the diagnosis was made. They'd dropped their coverage and used the added cash to help bolster the operation of their antique and used furniture shop.

Do you feel so sorry for them now?

17 posted on 05/19/2005 7:27:10 AM PDT by ctlpdad
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This happens all the time, and has been happening all the time for years. A very large percentage of bankruptcies are caused by high medical bills that the debtor can't pay, and it's been that way for decades.

I'm surprised that it made the local newspaper, but I guess it's a small town.

The real problem is the high cost of health care, not so much the collection practices. And there are a lot of reasons for that. Our politicians (Dem or GOP) simply don't know how to deal with it.

They could start by getting the government out of the business of running the health care industry. It's the most regulated industry in the country.


18 posted on 05/19/2005 7:27:21 AM PDT by Brilliant
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If she was an illegal alien then her bills would be paid for by you and me. This is the travesty that Bush et.al. have created for us - Time to get serious and stop giving to those who have given nothing to the system - its past time that we start taking care of Americans first.


19 posted on 05/19/2005 7:28:44 AM PDT by sasafras (Innocent blood is on Bush's hands for doing nothing to protect our border)
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notice that the couple decided to DROP their insurance coverage in order to put their money into an Antique Business

Yup they gambled and lost. So the hell with boneheads? Well sorry, either way the Gov't's gonna bail these people out. They can force the sale of the house and then these folks will be destitute and will qualify for subsidized housing and subsidized health care. Where's the victory there and for whom?

20 posted on 05/19/2005 7:28:51 AM PDT by rhombus
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