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Antonio Villaraigosa Elected L.A. Mayor
Yahoo - AP ^ | May 18, 2005 | MICHAEL R. BLOOD

Posted on 05/18/2005 1:04:53 AM PDT by RWR8189

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To: A CA Guy

Whenever I read about homestate this song comes to mind. Sigh.

The Last Resort
(The Eagles)

She came from Providence,
the one in Rhode Island
Where the old world shadows hand
heavy in the air
She packed her hopes and dreams
like a refugee
Just as her father came across the sea

She heard about a place people were simlin'
They spoke about the red man's way,
and how they loved the land
And they came from everywhere
to the Great Divide
Seeking a place to stand
or a place to hide

Down in the crowded bars,
out for a good time,
Can't wait to tell you all,
what it's like up there
And they called it paradise
I don't know why
Somebody laid the mountains low
while the town got high

Then the chilly winds blew down
Across the desert
through the canyons of the coast, to
the Malibu
Where the pretty people play,
hungry for power
to light their neon way
and give them things to do

Some rich men came and raped the land,
Nobody caught 'em
Put up a bunch of ugly boxes, and Jesus,
people bought 'em
And they called it paradise
The place to be
They watched the hazy sun, sinking in the sea

You can leave it all behind
and sail to Lahaina
just like the missionaries did, so many years ago
They even brought a neon sign:"Jesus is coming"
Brought the white man's burden down
Brought the white man's reign

Who will provide the grand design?
What is yours and what is mine?
'Cause there is no more new frontier
We have got to make it here

We satifsy our endless needs and
justify our bloody deeds,
in the name of destiny and the name
of God

And you can see them there,
On Sunday morning
They call it paradise
I don't know why
You call someplace paradise,
kiss it goodbye


161 posted on 05/18/2005 1:30:52 PM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: F16Fighter

Anyone who doesn't understand the depth and breadth of this illegal immigration problem is really nothing more than a useful idiot that resorts to the white supremacy guilt trip when he/she is absolutely devoid of ideas or facts.


162 posted on 05/18/2005 1:31:59 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: Jim Robinson; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; Jack Black; meadsjn; ...
For the record, let it be seen that apparently on FR today, it is okay to call a freeper a Nazi racist. It seems to be fine with Jim Robinson, and the sidebar moderators.

Read 60 to 68, and then the recent replies, to see how charging one with being a Nazi racist, directly and in the open, is now tolerated on this forum.

163 posted on 05/18/2005 1:34:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

And maybe we're just tired of the constant flamewars. How about taking your wars elsewhere?


164 posted on 05/18/2005 1:45:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Travis McGee

jv is a racist as he believes whites whould leave the uS as it is OK by him for Mexicans to invade and take over.


165 posted on 05/18/2005 1:45:49 PM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: Little Ray

I wouldn't suggest calling a Spaniard an Hispanic.
My brother, who lives and works in Madrid, says that would be a very bad idea, comparable to calling a Persian an Arab.


166 posted on 05/18/2005 1:48:54 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: SF Republican

I consider that a quote from the article.
was the article, in your estimate, racist?


167 posted on 05/18/2005 1:50:25 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: King Prout

Oooh! That smarts... I'll remember that.


168 posted on 05/18/2005 1:56:37 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Redcloak
"Are land"? Is that graphic for real? Or is this just the work of a very subtle sense of humor?

No, it's for real, courtesy of La Raza, or "The Race".

169 posted on 05/18/2005 1:59:09 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Travis McGee

Travis,

In all of our private emails over the last few years; in all of our FR messaging for longer than that; from reading the excerpts from your book and what I read after buying the book (no, I still haven't finished it); I have NEVER seen a single word, idea, notion, sentiment, or statement that showed any thought towards race, let alone racism.

I have known racists (of varying colors) and they can't keep race from being the subject of every conversation.

If anyone is a racist -- and I am not saying that he is -- it is your accuser. He may just be short of vision, insight, and enough brains to see that ILLEGAL immigration is a problem -- and as the grandson of LEGAL, white, Eastern European immigrants I don't care if the illegals are genetic twins to me.

If you try to enter my house without permission, I'll shoot to kill. I don't see why the borders -- the door to our country -- should be treated any different. Respect them or die without regard to race, color, creed, or national origin.


170 posted on 05/18/2005 1:59:14 PM PDT by Badray ((Under construction))
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To: Jim Robinson; Travis McGee; jveritas
"Maybe we're just tired of the constant flamewars. How about taking your wars elsewhere?"

"We"??

Serious question, JR:

Do you believe Travis McGee is a "racist" and "involved with the white supremacist movement" as has been publically charged by jveritas?

171 posted on 05/18/2005 2:03:35 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: american spirit
"Anyone who doesn't understand the depth and breadth of this illegal immigration problem is really nothing more than a useful idiot that resorts to the white supremacy guilt trip when he/she is absolutely devoid of ideas or facts."

Clearly.

172 posted on 05/18/2005 2:05:36 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Travis McGee

cool head de main t'ing, Mon.

those of us who favor closing and controlling the border know the truth about you and ourselves: Considering the ethnic diversity on our side, these accusations we suffer (of being a white supremacist front) are the mere barkings of raving decerebrates... things to be scorned and laughed at.


173 posted on 05/18/2005 2:06:47 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: Jim Robinson
This is not a "flamewar" Jim.

This started out this AM with my getting a freepmail calling me a Nazi racist.

I had not even made a reply to jveritas in any thread in weeks or months that I am aware of.

Jveritas has since then repeated that I am a Nazi racist over and over on this thread.

Is that okay with you?

174 posted on 05/18/2005 2:06:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Jim Robinson

If the private freepmails are as shown on this thread, they, along with the posts on the thread, seem to show jveritas engaging in straight up unacceptable racist accusations and race-baiting. Given that, I don't understand the "just tired" comment.

What am I missing?


175 posted on 05/18/2005 2:10:29 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: King Prout

I consider that a quote from the article. - I do not think it said Read this and weep - THAT i do believe is racist.


176 posted on 05/18/2005 2:10:33 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Dan from Michigan

I think you are right about the Vietnamese. I'm not sure abour Laotians. Around here, they seem to be liberal oriented and to have acquired negative urban cultural attitudes.

The Vietnamese were genuine political refugees. The kind of immigration I am all for.


177 posted on 05/18/2005 2:10:34 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: SF Republican

then I would posit that whatever hue your demis bears, it is a might thin and easily pricked.


178 posted on 05/18/2005 2:15:21 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: F16Fighter
The "we" refers to me and the moderators. The question was addressed us and I answered it. I believe the moderators are just as fed up with these flamewars as I am. None of us like dealing with the never ending abuse reports on the immigration threads, especially when it's the same old combatants with the same old insults and flames repeated thread after thread after thread. I've asked you all to back off many times. Now if you guys can't disengage, I suggest you take it elsewhere. Otherwise, I guess we'll have no choice but to continue pulling, suspending and banning until the wars stop.
179 posted on 05/18/2005 2:18:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Stu Cohen

It is unfortunate that the issue of differing race gives folks the impulse to capitulate in the face of a serious problem defeined by legality, magnitude, culture and many other parameters.

The folks afraid to call it like it is are so afraid of being labeled racist that they have lost their will....their cajones.

Are Rush, Hannity, Elder, Liddy, and nearly all of conservative talk radio racist too.

The mere fact that there is arguably "some" racial aspect to all this is not a good enough excuse not to act.

Does anyone know of another example in history where the predominate culture in a society capitulated without firing a shot because of guilt for things they didn't even do?

It's the theatre of the absurd to even have to defend such to these weak kneed softies.

BUT...some of the open borders advocates here are actually anti-anglo because of their own issues. I suppose that is not racist though.


180 posted on 05/18/2005 2:20:47 PM PDT by wardaddy
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