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In the Senate, 'DefCon 1' Nears
NewsMax ^ | 5/17/05 | Vincent Fiore

Posted on 05/17/2005 6:29:50 PM PDT by wagglebee

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it will be political warfare not seen in the Senate chamber since the combative days of 1964. Then, the Senate set out upon a 57-day marathon to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964, finally culminating with Democratic Senator Robert Byrd, who railed for some 14 hours against fundamental rights for blacks.

It's really too bad that there isn't any old video footage of Byrd's racist diatribe, it would make for some incredible commercials.

1 posted on 05/17/2005 6:29:51 PM PDT by wagglebee
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Is tomorrow the day?...should I head for my bunker?....


2 posted on 05/17/2005 6:31:05 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Newsweek lied, People died...)
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I keep looking for that blue glow to appear above the
northeastern horizon, it will mean the dawn of a new day!


3 posted on 05/17/2005 6:33:45 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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"Then, the Senate set out upon a 57-day marathon to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964, finally culminating with Democratic Senator Robert Byrd, who railed for some 14 hours against fundamental rights for blacks."

I suspect there is a way to end this mess without resorting to 'Global Thermonuclear War'. I wonder what would happen if the republicans forced the democrats to actually 'filibuster' like in the days of yore. I mean, make the dems take to the floor of the senate and talk continuously. If they stop talking, they've broken the filibuster. Yes, if the dems want to filibuster, then really make them filibuster and not this fake phony filibuster where they only threaten to talk forever.


4 posted on 05/17/2005 6:36:20 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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The 'Rats have already changed the rules (back in the 1970s IIRC) that makes it possible to filibuster by not giving cloture (the formal process of allowing a vote to occur) without actually having to do it. That's why this isn't as extreme as the left wants everyone to think, all the GOP is going to do is revise rules that the 'Rats (under the leadership of Klansman Byrd) implemented a quarter century ago.


5 posted on 05/17/2005 6:40:16 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Majority Leader Bill Frist will call for a vote on Texas Nominee Priscilla Owens, first nominated by President Bush to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in May 2001.



IMO, Justice Brown should go first.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1404964/posts?page=34#34


6 posted on 05/17/2005 6:41:12 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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The GOP can't afford to force the Dems to do a traditional filibuster. It would prevent any other Senate business from proceeding, which means no social security reform, no tax reform, etc.
7 posted on 05/17/2005 6:43:15 PM PDT by curiosity
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8 posted on 05/17/2005 6:45:38 PM PDT by Popman ("I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it." Patrick Henry)
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The Republicans would have to maintain at least 51 Senators on the floor at all times to maintain a quorum, the Democrats could have but a single member on the floor.

Physical exhaustion would do in the Republicans while a single Democrat (who could yield to another) could maintain the filibuster. I don't believe that the Republicans could get enough RINOs to even populate the floor of the Senate if they are going to vote against the 'constitutional' option...


dvwjr


9 posted on 05/17/2005 6:49:50 PM PDT by dvwjr
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To: Popman

I hope I'm wrong but it just doesn't seem like the Nuclear Option will happen. This whole thing has been stop n go for so long. I wonder if the dems will cave and let these judges have an up or down vote so they can save their fillibustering tactics for the supreme court judges....


10 posted on 05/17/2005 6:52:41 PM PDT by floridavoter2
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Will the rubber meet the road freepers want to know.


11 posted on 05/17/2005 6:57:31 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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A lot depends on us. I called, as a constituent (I am) one of my Senators, Arlen Specter. I told his office "in the words of Margaret Thatcher, don't go all wobbly on us". UP OR DOWN VOTE.


12 posted on 05/17/2005 6:58:39 PM PDT by jdsteel (We need 2 new refineries, 20 new nuclear power plants and ANWAR ASAP)
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The "constitutional" option should at all last resort. It will set a very bad precedent for the future. Unfortunately, I think it will come down to that actually happening because the Dems have already set the stage by being obstructionist.

I personally believe behind closed doors the Dems are trying to work out a compromise with the GOP leadership so not to lose face.

That's where I think we will be suckered.........................................again.

We will be pushed into using it and lose because of some scum sucking RINO who will pull a fast one.

13 posted on 05/17/2005 7:00:00 PM PDT by Popman ("I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it." Patrick Henry)
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Seriously, if the dems can get all their ducks in a row we should be able to get our RINOs, even John McRino in line too.


14 posted on 05/17/2005 7:11:04 PM PDT by floridavoter2
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Yeah right and they will roll up into a fetal ball.

Then the Demo rats will really be in control and I bet Maine loses its bases and Groton closes in CT.

15 posted on 05/17/2005 7:11:06 PM PDT by dts32041 (Two words that shouldn't be used in the same sentence Grizzly bear and violate.)
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It will set a very bad precedent for the future.

Frist will not be setting precedent.
Byrd (D-WVa) did it 4 times since 1979.

If the (D)s follow through with their Nuclear Reaction, THAT will set a very bad precedent, and Frist will have to resort to the constitutional Bryd option repeatedly to move anything though the Senate.

16 posted on 05/17/2005 7:20:35 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (When Frist exercises his Constitutional "Byrd option", Reid will have a "Nuclear Reaction".)
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Not to worry! Frist has only been threatening this for about a year now. We haven't even had 17 UN resolutions yet. As Sadam says, when the US senate threatens something, you have about 12 years before you really have to stare worrying...
17 posted on 05/17/2005 7:21:10 PM PDT by Conservative Infidel (Only thing harder to find in US Senate these days than a Dem w/ a conscience is a Rep w/ a spine.)
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Well, I still have time then...sigh!


18 posted on 05/17/2005 7:24:57 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Newsweek lied, People died...)
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To: dts32041

There should be film coverage of the '64 filibuster. I vaguely remember them, and I remember the public being disgusted. All this noble talk of protecting the rights of the minority goes up in smoke when they start bringing in the cots so somebody can read the phone book.


19 posted on 05/17/2005 7:25:28 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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I sincerely hope that our side manages to develop a spine over this issue and won't surrender it to the RINOs like they did with the Bolton nomination. Keep those lauch codes ready, guys.


20 posted on 05/17/2005 7:31:01 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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