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Lucas jabs at 'Bush's empire'
Japan today ^ | Monday, May 16, 2005 at 07:29 JST

Posted on 05/16/2005 2:07:19 AM PDT by Savage_Nation

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To: ViLaLuz

These stories were penned during the Vietnam War.


221 posted on 05/16/2005 12:43:36 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Savage_Nation

Who cares what George Lucas' political views are. He is obviously living in a fantasy world and has no idea what the real world is about. My four year old grandson has a more reality based opinion of the world than Lucas does.
George- just keep smokin' them joints...


222 posted on 05/16/2005 12:45:12 PM PDT by Cate
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To: Savage_Nation

George Lucas is the Troy McClure (Simpsons) of Hollywood directors.

"Hello, I'm George Lucas, you may remember me from such films as THX and (pause for a long thought) well that sucked. You know me best for directing the most overrated retread project seen in the universe Star Wars."


223 posted on 05/16/2005 1:22:31 PM PDT by sully777 (If anyone asks, I'm a monger-monger.)
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To: Darkwolf

To stay on the topic of the films, I think Return of the Jedi was a victim of its producer's success. I'm not sure SW had really become the transcendent gig when he was making The Empire Strikes Back, although those snow scenes were sort of ridiculous.

I'd rather watch American Graffiti, to be honest with you.

For a newer example, see the Matrix movies. The first one could stand on its own, the second one pickled your brain, and the third one was like a damn cartoon.


224 posted on 05/16/2005 1:23:17 PM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: Savage_Nation

Do you really think that the movie promotes atheism, liberalism, socialism, or communism? And do you really think that they hate America?


225 posted on 05/16/2005 1:24:36 PM PDT by hail to the chief (Use your conservatism liberally)
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To: Cate

"George- just keep smokin' them joints..."

Don't Bogart that joint, my friend!


226 posted on 05/16/2005 1:24:49 PM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: ViLaLuz

He just saved me some money.


227 posted on 05/16/2005 2:04:09 PM PDT by BoxerDawgs
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Speaking of the Trade Federation, didn't Lucas take some serious crap because they were supposed to be charicatures of Japanese? Then he took crap because Jar Jar Binks is supposed to be black?

I don't think Lucas could say or do anything that wouldn't have some group up in arms.



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Subtitle:  YES, HE IS WRONG FOR DOING THAT.

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Subtitle:  I KNEW A MAN IN A SIMILAR PREDICAMENT, AND HE ENDED UP BEING SORRY.

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Subtitle:  EARLY TO BED, EARLY TO RISE, MAKES A MAN HEALTHY, WEALTHY AND WISE.

Together: Col' got to be! Yo!

Subtitle:  HOW TRUE!

Together: Sheeeeeeet!

Subtitle:  GOLLY.


228 posted on 05/16/2005 2:06:52 PM PDT by sully777 (If anyone asks, I'm a monger-monger.)
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To: MIT-Elephant
"To stay on the topic of the films, I think Return of the Jedi was a victim of its producer's success. I'm not sure SW had really become the transcendent gig when he was making The Empire Strikes Back, although those snow scenes were sort of ridiculous."

The snow scenes were fantastic, and actually the perpetuation of the SW phenom can almost be marked from the first appearance of the walkers. There had never been anything like that in films before.

Yes, indeedy, SW had become the transcendent gig by that point. It stayed in theaters over a year and was nominated for Best Picture, not to mention surpassing Jaws to the #1 spot in US box office history. On top of that, Lucas retained all the mertchandising for the movie, and no movie of the 70's had so successfully perpetuated itself through merchandising.

BTW, the problem with Jedi was that the producer of the previous two was GONE--Gary Kurtz didn't produce it. His ideas for where Jedi should have gone were far, far better than Lucas's. Without Kurtz there to battle Lucas and wrestle ideas around, Lucas retreated to infantile junk. The idea Lucas originally had for the big lightsabre battle was for it to take place in an undergound lava-filled cave, similar to the situation in the new one, and the ghosts of the dead Jedi appear at one point, looking on without being able to help--it had a truly dramatic, apocalyptic feel to it. Also, Luke goes off to continue the battle with the remains of the empire at the end, and if I recall correctly, he and Leia are not brother and sister.

"I'd rather watch American Graffiti, to be honest with you."

Me too, but Lucas's first three movies are one of cinema's great triples. All three films have been hugely influential.

For a newer example, see the Matrix movies. The first one could stand on its own, the second one pickled your brain, and the third one was like a damn cartoon.

All three of The Matrix movies are garbage, IMHO. The brothers basically tossed all kinds of Philip K. Dick, Samuel Delany and philosophical scraps into a blender and mixed. The second one basically restates the same idea forty different ways. The third one at least had good effects. The trilogy is one of the great wastes of time in cinema.

229 posted on 05/16/2005 2:24:53 PM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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To: Darkwolf

Before the Matrix films the Brothers W made an entertaining Neo-Noir called Bound.


230 posted on 05/16/2005 2:35:51 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Blech! I love movie lesbians but this one was way too self-consciously hip for me. And this was before one of the brothers was revealed as a cross-dresser who said he intended to get a sex change. ;) I know many folks like this movie but it takes a lot to do a "bottle" story like that, mostly in one location, and this one just kinda bored me. That Jennifer Tilly is annoying, no matter how hot Gina Gershon is.


231 posted on 05/16/2005 2:38:09 PM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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To: Savage_Nation

Wouldn't it be a terrible shame if this pot-bellied 50-something hippie lost his shirt on this movie because of peer-to-peer file sharing!


232 posted on 05/16/2005 2:41:45 PM PDT by MaryInSacto
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To: Darkwolf
I guess it does depend on one's tolerance for that sort of thing. I'm just saying I liked it more then the Matrix films which are unremittingly dull. It's no Reservoir Dogs! BTW a friend of mine knows Delany through academic connections and says he's a very cool guy.
233 posted on 05/16/2005 2:42:44 PM PDT by Borges
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To: MaryInSacto

He's 61 actually. This movie has already set records in pre-release ticket sales.


234 posted on 05/16/2005 2:43:22 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

He seems that way. His writings are unremittingly gay-centered nowadays, but if you can tolerate some of that, his autobiography "The Motion of Light in Water" is a terrific read. He has an ability to describe his experiences growing up black and priviledged in Harlem and then being married and writing SF in NYC in the sixties in a way that is so engrossing. Ditto his book "Heavenly Breakfast," about living in a commune. His life is nothing like mine, but this is why I read books, to look at how other people live, and he does a marvelous job of translating his experiences writing SF in the 60's.


235 posted on 05/16/2005 2:46:29 PM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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To: Savage_Nation
What a piece of crap. I'll do to this Star Wars what I did to the previous five: Skip it.
236 posted on 05/16/2005 2:48:50 PM PDT by Bombardier (Scratch a Democrat, find a traitor.)
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To: Savage_Nation

Lucas will now be the Darth Vader of the left wing conspiracy, I so Dub him. His allies Michael (Jabba the Hutt) Moore, and George (Anakin) Soros, have formed a trio
of exploitive treasonous, snakes.
Ops4 God BLess America!


237 posted on 05/16/2005 2:54:05 PM PDT by OPS4 (worth repeating)
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To: MIT-Elephant
I love Star Wars, hell I had my ticket for a while now. All this talk about how ROTS is a commentary of GWB is a liberal fantasy. How Emperor Palpatine comes to power is the same as all other tyrants come to power. Through some crisis as Civil War, depression, etc. The Empire is based more on the Nazis than the current US government.

AS for the movie I read a lot of reviews for it, and most have been very positive. Some say it is second only to The Empire Strikes Back.
238 posted on 05/16/2005 2:56:20 PM PDT by libertarianben (Looking for sanity and his hard to find cousin common sense)
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To: Savage_Nation

Few people in history have ever been as completely insulated from reality as cinema idiot savant George Lucas. But some tiny shred leaked through, just enough to convince him that he needed to trump up some contemporary angle to make his lame, derivative space opera appear significant. So he rips off talking points from Michael Moore and Ted Kennedy and inserts them into the plot. Voila - instant relevance.


239 posted on 05/16/2005 3:13:17 PM PDT by Argus (Omnia taglinea in tres partes divisa est.)
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To: libertarianben

The newer films are just awful. I like the very First Star Wars . I thought he was a Republican. I guess I was wrong.


240 posted on 05/16/2005 3:13:45 PM PDT by feyler
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