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Pope: Europe corrupts Africa
News24 ^ | 5/15/05 | News24

Posted on 05/15/2005 2:55:20 PM PDT by freedom44

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To: patton

Chill..didn't mean to hurt your feeling.


101 posted on 05/15/2005 9:54:09 PM PDT by rave123
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To: cyborg
But I am against affermitive action, I hate it.

I have NEVER told another person, you can't have this job, you are the wrong color.

But It has happened to me, because I am white, male, etc.

I don't like being screwed over any more than the next guy.

102 posted on 05/15/2005 10:00:31 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: freedom44

Europe still is corrupting Africa... espescially the franco-freaks and the belgium-buggers


103 posted on 05/15/2005 10:02:58 PM PDT by Porterville (Inside the heart of every murderer is a communist. Murderism= Communism= Liberalism)
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To: patton

She has to play into a certain segment of the white trade union vote with that. otherwise, they're just democrat sheep like the rest. There's more I could say about what an evil woman she is but I'm tired :-)


104 posted on 05/15/2005 10:04:31 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg

Get to bed, We can fght it out another day. ;)


105 posted on 05/15/2005 10:09:35 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: Torie

"Africans were not living in large cities"
I guess it depends on what you mean by large.Arab travelers in the Thirteenth Century reported sizable cities in what is now Ghana and Mali.Then there was ancient Zimbabwe as well as Timbuctoo and Sankore,the latter two which were mixtures of both Arab and African.


106 posted on 05/15/2005 10:17:41 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610

If they had as many as 10,000 residents I would be amazed.


107 posted on 05/15/2005 10:19:43 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: rave123

Who should run them is an easy question. A native black person with education,integrity, humanity, and courage.

Finding that person and keeping him alive when all around him is corruption is the hard part.


108 posted on 05/16/2005 3:45:54 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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Damn, Pope Benedict XVI is doing an excellent job!


109 posted on 05/16/2005 4:56:52 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: JSteff

My point is this: why is Nigerians cannot create a shoe factory in Nigeria and buy Nigerian shoes? Oh. It's because they want to be just .... like .... us. (How many babies are not in the USA today b/c of legalized abortion? Oh, that doesn't count .... we don't kill each other the way Africans do. Right.)

My point in the above is this: We have indeed exported our vices far more effectively than our Christianity. And most of us are utterly asleep to the fact.


110 posted on 05/16/2005 6:11:52 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: Torie

I had a college professor tell me about the influence of competing missionary groups in Uganda in the 19th Century. They succeeded in creating new lines of division among Africans, Catholic v. Protestant along with the traditional Muslim groups, that influenced politics in that country down through the Idi Amin period and afterward.

Of course no one intended that to happen, but when you introduce complex new social structures onto a society that has a different basic sense of organization, the results are unpredictable. Although it's not like there was no historical record of Catholics v. Protestants fighting for turn in Germany and France.

The lines between Hutu and Tutsi were never clear-cut and hermetically sealed until the Belgians introduced the concept of legal ethnic identity across generations--and co-opting groups who most resembled Europeans for leadership positions.


111 posted on 05/16/2005 8:54:30 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: sirthomasthemore

What is erroneous in this assertion is its fundamental presumption: to create a happy continent where there has never been one would require a miracle of transculturation. And for the humans to require or demand a miracle is presumptious. One could only hope and pray for one.


112 posted on 05/16/2005 12:12:08 PM PDT by GSlob
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to create a happy continent where there has never been one would require a miracle of transculturation



With respect, that's your presumption, not the Pope's.

The Pope's presumption is that a "happy Christian Africa, a great continent of new humanism" CAN be created by the efforts of mankind. He called upon Christians to try to do so,he made no demands on God, nor did he call for a miracle.

You presume it can't happen, because it's never happened; the Pope does not share your presumption- and frankly, he'd be one heck of a sorry excuse for a Pope if he did. (Not meaning to disparage your view, but only saying I don't think a Pope can hold such a negative view of humanity.)

Anyway, there are precedents, my friend. Who would have ever presumed elections in the multi-factioned Iraq?


113 posted on 05/16/2005 1:00:25 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: sirthomasthemore

The future [near future] will tell - despite its elections, un-transculturated Iraq will continue to be a tribalist and sectarian hellhole for as long as an eye can see. If they break it apart, then there might be hope for the Kurdish areas, for they have recently demonstrated ability if not for happy, then at least for a decent and orderly social existence. And the best part of it is that they did demonstrate it mostly by themselves, without Kulturtraegers.


114 posted on 05/16/2005 1:16:53 PM PDT by GSlob
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