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The Marrying Kind: Mark Steyn on Owen Allred
Steyn Online ^ | May 2005 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/15/2005 10:05:49 AM PDT by Rummyfan

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Interesting implications for the current assault on traditional marriage.......
1 posted on 05/15/2005 10:05:49 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Pokey78

Ping - a - roo!!!


2 posted on 05/15/2005 10:06:16 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Logical conclusions.


3 posted on 05/15/2005 10:17:28 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Rummyfan

Somehow I can't seem to convince my wife that I need a second wife. She seems to think two husbands would be OK, but that just doesn't appeal to me at all.


4 posted on 05/15/2005 10:25:32 AM PDT by elmer fudd
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To: Rummyfan

It has always been difficult for me to understand how the United States Government could outlaw polygamy in Utah, when the U.S. Constitution guarantees freedom of religion. It is not as if they are practicing human sacrifice or any other religious rite that actually hurts another person without their consent.


5 posted on 05/15/2005 10:25:33 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Rummyfan

Well, I live in a compound with my second ex wife and her husband. The kids (3) play in the yard between the houses. I take my son over to the front house in the AM before I go to work and they homeschool him. On weekends if they need to get out, I act as a babysitter. My daughter will spend the night on occasional weekends. It works for us.

As opposed to my first wife who divorced me to live with her girlfriend, then (falsely!) accused me of horrible things when she got jealous of my second wife.


6 posted on 05/15/2005 10:27:15 AM PDT by Donald Meaker
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It has always been difficult for me to understand how the United States Government could outlaw polygamy in Utah,

It's just like Roe v Wade. Imposed by Federal Courts, right? Gay marriage is next, it's already happening needless to say.

7 posted on 05/15/2005 10:31:05 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: beekeeper

bttt


8 posted on 05/15/2005 10:42:14 AM PDT by KeyWest
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To: Rummyfan
"I say “home”, though The New York Times preferred “compound”. But the Times seems to use the term as universally accepted shorthand for “wacky cult”,

Doesn't the New York Times and the MSM refer to the Kennedy's Hyannis Port home as a "the Kennedy compound?"

9 posted on 05/15/2005 12:09:50 PM PDT by tahiti
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It's just like Roe v Wade. Imposed by Federal Courts, right?"

For the purposes of accuracy, the decision to ban the states from making an abortion illegal, in Roe v. Wade, was based on "viability" of a fetus.

A fetus is a non-human according to the Supreme Court in 1972 until it is "viable" outside of the womb, approximately after 6 months of preganancy.

Until that point, the fetus has been declared, in effect, human tissue or an organ, such as a kidney.

And just as all citizens have the "right to privacy" to determine what they do with their own kidney, a woman has the "right to privacy" to dispose of the "non human" as she wants.

The "people" can fix Roe V. Wade, by having the Congress declare a fetus, from conception, a human being.

Then the fetus has a "right to privacy," as well and cannot be murdered.

Such legislation has been introduced by Cong. Ron Paul.

Call your federal rep and make sure he/she supports and votes for this legislation.

10 posted on 05/15/2005 12:15:45 PM PDT by tahiti
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It has always been difficult for me to understand how the United States Government could outlaw polygamy in Utah...

They didn't. The US just refused to admit Utah to the Union as a state until Utah outlawed polygamy. I suppose Utahansof the day believed that the advantages of being a state outweighed the advantages of having more than one wife.

11 posted on 05/15/2005 12:47:54 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Rummyfan

I have a problem with these guys having several wives and many children -- that I have to support. If they want to support them, fine. If I have to, they are no different from any other low-life welfare cheat.


12 posted on 05/15/2005 12:50:43 PM PDT by jim_trent
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They didn't. The US just refused to admit Utah to the Union as a state until Utah outlawed polygamy. I suppose Utahansof the day believed that the advantages of being a state outweighed the advantages of having more than one wife.

They tried the same type of thing in Arizona, where the state Constitution called for the ability to recall judges. The federal government would not let Arizona become a state until this provision was taken out.

After the provision was taken out, and Arizona became a State, Arizonans promptly held a referendum at the next election and put it back into the State Constitution.

13 posted on 05/15/2005 2:29:26 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Rummyfan

Whatever the merits of gay nuptials, it’s hard to see why, if gender is irrelevant, the central immutable feature of marriage should now be the number of participants.

BANG! Mark puts one in the black!


14 posted on 05/15/2005 2:36:19 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Rummyfan
“The man who wants several women to be his sexual partners,” said Allred, “can have children by them, and the state will support those children. He remains free of any legal accusation - until he marries more than one wife. Marry them, and he becomes a criminal.”

Can't come up with an argument there!

15 posted on 05/15/2005 2:51:59 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Don't You Think This Outlaw Bit's Done Got Out Of Hand?)
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But the Times seems to use the term [compound] as universally accepted shorthand for “wacky cult”.

The Kennedy compound immediately comes to mind here. Next time the NYT mentions the "Kennedy compound," it will make more sense to me.

16 posted on 05/15/2005 2:54:02 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Don't You Think This Outlaw Bit's Done Got Out Of Hand?)
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To: Donald Meaker

A "compound"?


17 posted on 05/15/2005 2:54:46 PM PDT by Libertina (If illegals don't have to obey US laws, NEITHER DO WE!)
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To: Rummyfan

Steyn, baby!!! What a fascinating and witty tale.


18 posted on 05/15/2005 2:58:08 PM PDT by dennisw (the country music station plays soft but there’s nothing, really nothing to turn off)
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To: jim_trent
What I find most interesting about polygamy is that those who practice it seemingly have no trouble finding women who are willing to engage in it. I really have to wonder about a woman who would willingly enter such an arrangement.

It is also interesting that there is apparently no instances of polygamy that work the opposite way - that is, women marrying multiple men.

19 posted on 05/15/2005 3:11:48 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Don't You Think This Outlaw Bit's Done Got Out Of Hand?)
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To: SamAdams76; cyborg; tuliptree76; Xenalyte; Lady Jag

I want multiple husbands.

three is a good number.

I want one who can fix stuff, one who can cook, and one who looks cute in tight jeans!


20 posted on 05/15/2005 3:25:27 PM PDT by tiamat (Why choose the Lesser Evil? Darth Vader in 2008!)
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