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Stop Apologizing to Islam!! - (stupendous...what else can I say? Barbara Stock is RIGHT! ENOUGH!)
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | MAY 15, 2005 | BARBARA STOCK

Posted on 05/14/2005 11:23:48 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: Publius6961
Is it just me or does anyone else think we are our own worst enemy?

It is OUR media and our loose lips that causes most of the problems. No one need report everything that happens.

121 posted on 05/15/2005 7:08:03 PM PDT by estrogen (ha ha Daschle is history)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
That was suppose to be "... beginning of their own enlightenment ...". Sorry...
122 posted on 05/15/2005 7:11:04 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB

I think I read it that way anyway-maybe I need new glasses.


123 posted on 05/15/2005 7:16:54 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If bullsh*t was fuel-the liberal dems would be a national......nay...... international treasure.)
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To: auburntiger
"considering how afraid we are in offending them."

I can't claim to speak for all of my countrymen, however, please don't include me and my friends in your "we". I don't personally have any friends or associates that I know of who in fact are afraid of offending muslims. But then, I live in Texas.

On Earth, as it is in Texas!

124 posted on 05/15/2005 7:38:12 PM PDT by de Buillion (Jerusalem, 1099)
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To: An American Patriot
"please add me to your ping list",br>

Delighted to do so. Thanks!

Char :)

125 posted on 05/15/2005 7:43:52 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing, with Billery in tow. on a leash.........)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
"those folks need to develop a sense of humor and stop taking themselves so seriously."

It will never happen. There aren't any comedy breaks in the How-To-Kill-Rape-Behead guidebook. It is a blood, gore and death cult. It is a sub-human abomination, and what is still left of the civilized world must discredit it, including mockery, scorn and ridicule, until one fine day, it will be obsolete, an anachronism of history.

The pity is that it wasn't eradicated long before now.

Char

126 posted on 05/15/2005 7:50:16 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing, with Billery in tow. on a leash.........)
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To: auburntiger
"Now send this message to Congress, President and Supreme Court. "

Ditto to YOU and Armednready

127 posted on 05/15/2005 8:00:46 PM PDT by de Buillion (Jerusalem, 1099)
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To: CHARLITE

correct.


128 posted on 05/15/2005 8:07:15 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (The minutemen are 'vigilantes' doncha know?)
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To: DB; CHARLITE; pgyanke; All
That's all well and good, but if you declare war on all Muslims things will far worse for us in Iraq, Afghanistan among other places. Put simply it's foolish.

You, and others in this thread, are mischaracterizing this article. You need to read it more carefully. The author is simply stating that we are at war with Islam; this is simply the objective reality. The author is not calling for us to publicly declare war on Islam; she is merely pointing out that we need to acknowlege this reality to ourselves. The only thing the author is calling for us to do publicly is to stop apologising to the Islamists.

129 posted on 05/15/2005 10:19:11 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: CHARLITE

What has happened to this country?

We have largely forsaken our God. The only reason we are still around is that the true Christians that are left are praying for this nation.

The love of life, and thus the willingness to preserve and defend it comes from God. When people wander away fromt the source of True Life ... all manner of darkness follows.

The Left carries the banner of darkness in this nation. They serve death.


130 posted on 05/15/2005 10:35:41 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: mercy
"The Left carries the banner of darkness in this nation."

I've been saying for awhile now that we need a total spiritual renaissance in America. Things can't get too much worse, or the darkness which has been created by the liberals will be overwhelming.

Thanks for your serious comments.

Char

131 posted on 05/15/2005 10:44:01 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing, with Billery in tow. on a leash.........)
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To: Petronius; CHARLITE; All
Now we are at war again. This time with an enemy that has no borders, no country, no government, and no recognizable army.

**Sigh** Then it's not a "war." Look up the definition.

I have. The author's use of the word is correct. Your statement is not.

Anyone who seriously talks about a "war on terror" (or a war on poverty or drugs) should be led by the hand to a nice quiet room where he can't harm anyone.

While it is certainly appropriate to argue the semantic merits of those phrases, your qualifications to render such a judgement on those who use them are dubious, particularly in light of your demonstrated lack of understanding of the nature of war. Sorry, Petronius, you are no Arbiter.

132 posted on 05/15/2005 10:45:57 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: lainde

Excellent article.

However, I doubt very seriously that the pathetic blame America first crowd will like it.


133 posted on 05/15/2005 10:48:04 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Toughy

#30 was removed.

Was it because some pathetic blame America first troll went beyond idiocy.


134 posted on 05/15/2005 10:51:02 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Longbow1969
I was in OKC the morning this building was blown up and so many people murdered.

I have heard of at least 34 different stories by various witnesses that said there were Arab looking men running away just before the bomb blast.

Oklahoma City has a very large contingent of Hamas members living there.

I would be very careful before closing off the investigation and taking the word of of some of those government men who propagated the murder of innocent men, women and children in Waco.
135 posted on 05/15/2005 11:02:12 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: tarheelswamprat
We focus too much on individuals. UBL is nothing. He can't make a phone call.

We are at war. A war of cultures. Our laws are universal; we strive to protect the rights of all (though we are fallible, we improve): Sha'ria is the Islamic law, idiocentric, which grants rights only to followers. It grants followers extralegal protection and pardons crimes committed against "nonbelievers"

The Islamists use our laws against us. They seek only disruption of western society, conversion and dominance.

136 posted on 05/15/2005 11:14:40 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: tarheelswamprat
The problem with waging "wars" against drugs, poverty, or terror is that absolutely nothing could ever constitute winning them. There will always be a drug problem; groups with no access to conventional weaponry will always resort to terrorism.

It's not a semantic trifle because "being at war" is invariably used to justify encroachments on constitutional liberties. How many abominations against the fourth amendment were perpetrated in the holy name of the War on Drugs? "It's a war, you see. To win the war we may have to make some changes, maybe temporarily sacrifice some rights. What? You don't want to win the war? Whose side you on?"

137 posted on 05/15/2005 11:29:21 PM PDT by Petronius (Hunter: Shine On You Crazy Diamond!)
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To: tarheelswamprat

And you need to read what I was replying to. It wasn't the article. It was other posters demanding that we declare war on Islam front and center. And to do anything other than that was being 'PC' and an 'apologist for Islam' etc. I was simply pointing out to do so would be foolish and not further our cause. Go read it again...


138 posted on 05/15/2005 11:57:02 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB
They need to move out of their own dark ages. They're stuck in time... Hopefully this is the beginning of the own enlightenment period. One can only hope...

Yeah, that's about where I'm at. I'm not exactly a scholar of Islam: Can that religion even have a Reformation? Or are we banking on a miracle?

It might be that the "stuck in time" factor you allude to plays as much a role as their religion. Imagine a country of 16th-century Europeans suddenly confronted with a culture that tolerates MTV, pornography, abortion, and you can fill in the next fifty-thousand examples yourself. The 16th-century Europeans, assuming they survived the initial shock, would be mortified, enraged, repulsed, etc. And they would actively resist any assimilation.

This isn't a hymn to cultural relativism. I like the wild n' crazy freedoms we enjoy. But to expect ALL others to do so bespeaks a willful ignorance of human nature, a dangerous one.

139 posted on 05/16/2005 12:58:16 AM PDT by Petronius (Hunter: Shine On You Crazy Diamond!)
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To: OKIEDOC

One of the things specified by Gen. Ben Partin, expert on explosives, that nothing should be touched after the bombing. Instead, the place was razed just three days after the bombing. Why were they so quick to destroy the evidence?


140 posted on 05/16/2005 5:35:24 AM PDT by Doctor13
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