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Judge hands down $1.35 million judgement(Ranch Rescue Texas)
LAREDO MORNING TIMES ^ | 05/13/05 | CLAY REDDICK

Posted on 05/13/2005 3:32:42 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

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To: omega4412
No illegal alien should have standing to sue anyone about anything

bump

41 posted on 05/13/2005 4:32:42 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: COEXERJ145

"Never said they were. I said that Nethercott recently announced that he and his cronies would use machine guns against illegals. Thankfully he is in jail."

Can you point to the exact quote? I hadn't heard about it.

I'm not sure that just saying something like that can get someone to jail, btw. I'm also not convinced that someone who says things like that should be imprisoned, since no actual crime has been committed. What a slippery slope!


42 posted on 05/13/2005 4:33:00 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Rytwyng
much greater mistreatment that will prevent them from ever suing anyone

It wouldn't surprise me if this was already going on...the resentment is growing and growing.

43 posted on 05/13/2005 4:33:04 PM PDT by janetgreen (Minuteman Project = American Patriotism)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Sends another message to illegal invaders and otm terrorists..

The courts trump everything in America...

America is a puta...and lays down easily for anyone and anybody anytime..

come on in and take her...she's easy and not only free she pays bonuses to those who use and abuse her...


Yet we sacrifice our own children to free Iraq and are fighting to protect her borders...

imo


44 posted on 05/13/2005 4:35:13 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: mvpel
Russia is especially touchy about letting doctors go. She says they encourage people to have children as if it were the soviet era but people can't afford children. Also alcoholism and drug addiction are epidemic among Russian men. Her fiancee killed himself a few years back. He was also a state doctor but treating unnecessarily terminal children was too much for him. (social medicine on steroids)
45 posted on 05/13/2005 4:37:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: All
Militia leader booked into Texas prison (Casey Nethercott)
46 posted on 05/13/2005 4:44:33 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Eaker; Happy2BMe; B4Ranch
This is the same idiot who recently threatened to use machine guns on anyone crossing the border illegally. Mass murder is not a solution to illegal immigration. If we condone such actions then we'd be no better than Nazi Germany. - COEXERJ145




What do American troops in South Korea do when the border that they are manning at our expense is breached by parties from the North?


39 posted on 05/13/2005 5:30:59 PM MDT by Eaker (..Let them throw cake!! . (TheMom)
Damn straight Eaker BUMP!
47 posted on 05/13/2005 4:45:52 PM PDT by glock rocks (For the love of all that's good and decent, don't try this at home)
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To: COEXERJ145
If we condone such actions then we'd be no better than Nazi Germany.

First opf all, no one is condoning such activities and I believe Nethercott himself would not resort to such tatics despite his bravado. That's probably all it is...and that is not a crime unless a direct threat is made against specific people and it can be shown he planned to carry out the threat. Foolish to say such thing? Perhaps...but not illegal. p> Beyond that, your comparison to Nazi Germany doesn't hold water. Hitler gassed people by the millions who were legal citizens of his own country and people whom he had imprisoned from other copuntries he had conquered in a brutal fashion. Nothing remotely similar is happening here or is sought. To the contrary, it is we that are being invaded by illegal aliens coming into this nation in violation of our own laws. It is perfectly letgal to make a citizen's arrest against someone who is committing a crime and then hold them for police. You just have to be sure it is a crime and that you do not harm or injure them unwarranted in the process.

But apparently now, Judges are willing to hand out rediculous settlements for something that common sense tells you was a non-issue, except that two illegals...criminals by any other definition...were stoiped from entering this country.

As to the alleged injuries to the one alien, I have never seen any report or pictures of the injuries the illegal sustained...in fact, a jury apparently wouldn't convict.

I'd like to know the details of the weapons charges. We found at Ruby Ridge and at Waco how those type charges can be trumped up to the point of getting people imprisoned and killed by our own agencies

48 posted on 05/13/2005 4:46:48 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Cowboy Bob
What was Nethercott later charged with - stopping a tresspasser?

Here you go:

Foote and Conner were not charged in the case, but Jim Hogg County prosecutors initially charged Nethercott with assault, unlawful detention and possession of an illegal weapon.

The assault and unlawful detention charges [against Nethercott] were dropped after a trial resulted in a hung jury, according to Nethercott's attorney Joseph Jacobson.

The weapons charge stuck, though, and Nethercott began serving a five-year sentence April 18 in a Texas prison.

Foote also is in prison, but in Arizona, on an unrelated weapons conviction.

49 posted on 05/13/2005 4:47:11 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Jeff Head
We found at Ruby Ridge and at Waco how those type charges can be trumped up to the point of getting people imprisoned and killed by our own agencies

That was my first thought Jeff.

51 posted on 05/13/2005 4:49:35 PM PDT by glock rocks (For the love of all that's good and decent, don't try this at home)
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To: drt1
Presuming that the lawsuit was properly filed, the defendant's unwillingness to answer the lawsuit automatically results in a default judgement after, I believe, a period of 30 days.

If it can be proved that the defendant did not receive proper notice or was incapable of answering, there is a chance (a small one) that this decision can be overturned.

Winning a judgment is not the same as actually getting the money. Personally, if I were the land owners, I would have counter-sued for emotional distress and other damages in an amount to twice what they claimants requested.

52 posted on 05/13/2005 4:51:00 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Proud Retosexual Wife of 12 Years)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Attorneys for neither the plaintiffs nor the defense expect Leiva Medina and Mancia Gonzales to get very much money beyond the settlement with the Suttons, though. Plaintiffs' attorneys are seeking to seize a piece of Arizona land owned by Nethercott. The land may fetch another $100,000 for the plaintiffs, de Anda said, but the defendants don't have much wealth.

They invade our nation and tresspass on private property, and the security people have to forfeit their entire lives to them??? this is disgusting beyond comprehension!

53 posted on 05/13/2005 4:51:27 PM PDT by montag813
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To: drt1
people crossing are just looking for a better way of life"

And the way they are getting "a better life" is to suck American taxpayers dry. Al Capone was ten times a better person than any of our elected people who are aiding illegal immigration.

54 posted on 05/13/2005 4:53:14 PM PDT by swampfox98 (Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
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To: joesnuffy
America is a puta...and lays down easily for anyone and anybody anytime..

come on in and take her...she's easy and not only free she pays bonuses to those who use and abuse her...

Yet we sacrifice our own children to free Iraq and are fighting to protect her borders...

This bears repeating. Why are we sacrificing our finest young men and women overseas, only to have them return to a country that is no longer the "good old U.S.A." ??

The WOT is primarily for our national security, yet we have less of a nation every day.

55 posted on 05/13/2005 4:57:01 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Truth is a rare commodity. Seek it, know it and cherish it.)
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To: COEXERJ145

They could avoid being "mass-murdered" by staying out of America!


56 posted on 05/13/2005 5:00:28 PM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: glock rocks; CHARLITE; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; ...
"What do American troops in South Korea do when the border that they are manning at our expense is breached by parties from the North?"

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Is it not the epitome of hypocrisy that our government will send tens of thousands of Americans to die a fierce death to protect a border for a country that hates our guts and won't even fund enough money and resources to defend our own border from an invasion every bit as damaging to the survival of America as a nation as South Korea's demise if North Korea attacked it militarily?

57 posted on 05/13/2005 5:00:50 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

According to court documents, Leiva Medina and Mancia Gonzalez crossed the border and paid a truck driver $200 to give them a ride. The driver dropped them off before reaching a Border Patrol checkpoint, and they began walking through a field in the dark.

-AT this point we see that illegal begin there move to violate the law.

After crossing a fence onto the Sutton ranch, the immigrants heard people coming and hid in brush. They were found by dogs and detained by three men, later identified by the immigrants as Nethercott, Jack Foote and Henry Mark Conner.

-AT this point, we see that illegals have crossed the border and violated law. And folks who are helping land owners protect their land....detain the criminals.


58 posted on 05/13/2005 5:03:34 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (REMEMBER - If you send it, they'll spend it!)
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To: La Enchiladita
In America we sacrifice thousands of our own children daily.
59 posted on 05/13/2005 5:05:20 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Remember, this is only a temporary exile!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

So criminals who crossed into our country, VIOLATING THE LAW, are now allowed to stay in the US legally. AND try and make money as their scheister lawyers try to take land from citizens trying to protect themselves from invasion.

This stuff has to end.




Plaintiffs' attorneys are seeking to seize a piece of Arizona land owned by Nethercott. The land may fetch another $100,000 for the plaintiffs, de Anda said, but the defendants don't have much wealth.

De Anda and the other plaintiffs' attorneys helped Mancia Gonzales and Leiva Medina obtain work visas. Mancia Gonzales now works for a janitorial service in Los Angeles, and Leiva Medina works at a restaurant in Dallas.


60 posted on 05/13/2005 5:06:09 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (REMEMBER - If you send it, they'll spend it!)
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