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Officials Weighed Shooting at Errant Plane
AP (via Drudge) ^ | May 12, 2005 9:33 PM (ET) | LARA JAKES JORDAN

Posted on 05/13/2005 12:25:41 AM PDT by andie74

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How a pilot could be confused by 2 F-16s and not know what to do still escapes me.
1 posted on 05/13/2005 12:25:41 AM PDT by andie74
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To: andie74

Shoot Already!!!!!
Shoot and set an example, maybe they could aim for a tire ;)


2 posted on 05/13/2005 12:26:44 AM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: andie74

I'm sorry, but they should have shot it down. 3 miles is nothing. If this had been a terrorist attack, we'd be trying to figure out who was 23rd in line to succeed the late President Bush.


3 posted on 05/13/2005 12:29:01 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Fenris6

I tend to agree. Anyone know if we have the pilot in custody?


4 posted on 05/13/2005 12:31:02 AM PDT by andie74 (Socializing children at home since 2003)
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To: Fenris6

who the hell was flyin that plane....snoopy ?


5 posted on 05/13/2005 12:31:38 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: andie74

The Airforce Pilot was interviewed on (i think it was Fox) and said he was two switch throws away from splashing the clown.

The big problem is nothing the Airforce flys on those missions can fly that slow, so they would have had to make a turn and come back on the cessna. That takes time.

The Cuban airforce used a tactic against international rescue flights, of flying under, popping up in front and punching the afterburners. Usually puts the Cessna inverted in point zero two seconds. They should have done that 10 miles out.


6 posted on 05/13/2005 12:34:46 AM PDT by konaice
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Hi, Do you mean by "inverted" as in upside down, or pointing straight down nose down to the ground?


7 posted on 05/13/2005 12:37:11 AM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: andie74

Couldn't a good pilot give the intruder a "bump"?

You creep up behind it, then blast the afterburn on top of it. They used it once, I forget where, to force down a plane.


8 posted on 05/13/2005 12:37:26 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

Inverted as up side down, but cause the thrust is usually asymetric (hits one wing more than the other) and flips the plane so fast the pilot has no idea what is happening.


9 posted on 05/13/2005 12:45:06 AM PDT by konaice
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To: Fenris6
I'm sorry, but they should have shot it down. 3 miles is nothing.

Who is at fault on that one? The reason this relatively slow aircraft was three miles away is because we had no way to communicate with it, and our response time was very lame. Had this been a real terrorist attack, with something faster then one of the slowest of all airplanes, they would have had plenty of time to do whatever they wanted to do. The last thing we need is some idiotic zero tolerance policy, but we do need better threat assessment and much faster response times.
10 posted on 05/13/2005 12:45:30 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: konaice

Ok thanks for the explanation, it makes sense now. :)


11 posted on 05/13/2005 12:46:53 AM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: andie74

Poor attempt at damage control - like Ridge's interview this morning on the subject.


12 posted on 05/13/2005 12:47:11 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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Agreed. Something smells funny here. Like...where is this pilot?

And something else that I thought of today. Could the Cessna have been a diversion to something else that was being planned on the ground?


13 posted on 05/13/2005 12:50:43 AM PDT by andie74 (Socializing children at home since 2003)
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To: SteveMcKing
You creep up behind it, then blast the afterburn on top of it. They used it once, I forget where, to force down a plane

Lets see, you're behind the target, your afterburners shoot out the rear, so HOW do you think this works?

Bump is another option, (put your wing tip under theirs and flip it up hard. But the speed differential is too great, the airforce jets can't fly slow enough.

14 posted on 05/13/2005 12:50:59 AM PDT by konaice
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U.S. Intelligence Source: “We are Extremely Concerned”

I think you'll like this article, it seems to be in-line with your post.
15 posted on 05/13/2005 12:57:56 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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Mike, it looks like the President was fine with the way things were handled and was not upset that he wasn't notified earlier. Just as you suggested......

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said that a review of how the situation was handled was being conducted. But he said Bush was not upset that he was not filled in.

"The president has a great amount of trust in his security detail," McClellan said. "If there are any improvements that need to be made, they will be made."

16 posted on 05/13/2005 12:59:07 AM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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I do like the article. I think you should post it for other readers here at FR.


17 posted on 05/13/2005 1:02:09 AM PDT by andie74 (Socializing children at home since 2003)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

"Shoot Already!!!!! "

I have to agree , we look weak, dithering and indecisive
at times like this . Our real enemies may try to take advantage of this obvious weakness.

There should be no chinks in the armor when it comes to maximum protections of our leadership and the nation's Capitol


18 posted on 05/13/2005 1:03:25 AM PDT by injin
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To: andie74

you know , what I don't get is why do 'they' think all the people in the Capitol's buildings are safer , or better off,
running scared out in the open , in the streets?
Seems to me like it makes everyone sitting ducks !
Better to start to create (if they haven't already) making
a variety of hardened spots and bunkers in DC . If Saddam could do it , why can't or why shouldn't we? I think it's essential. Our enemies must be laughing at all the scared Americans scrambling chaotically through the streets at even the most minor threats. (that turn out to be minor)


19 posted on 05/13/2005 1:12:25 AM PDT by injin
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To: injin

Think of what they must think when they read this story:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3179972


20 posted on 05/13/2005 1:21:45 AM PDT by andie74 (Socializing children at home since 2003)
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