Posted on 05/12/2005 7:46:54 PM PDT by Your Nightmare
I think it would easy your concerns a good bit if you do some reading of hr25 which actually is a pretty easy read.
You can click on the "bill number" choice and enter "hr25" (without the quotes) here:
http://thomas.loc.gov
The "loc" in the URL means Library of Congress; an official government website. Selecting the "Printer Friendly Display" option usuallw works out well.
You've just caught the Nightmare Tax fellow in another of his little nip-ups of the truth, it seems.
He just HATES that.
You are absolutely right. And who will we be fighting? The same breed of lawyer that feasts on tort injury, corporate statism, congressional perks, huge lobbying salaries and unequal treatment for those of us not able to afford a lobbyist.
Frankly, gsg, I relish that fight. I really relish that fight.
Well, actually before 1913 the idea of an income tax was prety much thought to be unconstitutional BUT ...
There was one tried in the Civil War era - 1862/63 as I recall and I've got a copy around here somewhere (kinda moth-eaten and dusty, though). It didn't last long I think because of the legal problems but it WAS passed into law and put into effect.
What are your concerns? What are your preferences on tax policy?
But NOTHING on your Nightmare Tax??? Didn't you get your invite?
Or maybe you were merely overcommited, eh???
Certainly true - you can clearly see that from these threads.
These naysayers, however, mistake how committed some who favor the FairTax might be. 'Twill be interesting.
None at all, actually, and that's a healthy sign.
I'm sure it would help you - answering both your #100 and #101 - to see that the FairTax is actually pretty progressive. Any regressivity is largely alleviated by the "prebate" (Family Consumption Allowance) plus some of the other features of the bill itself.
There are several good sources of information:
http://www.fairtax.org/
http://www.fairtaxvolunteer.org/smart/faq.html
http://www.fairtaxvolunteer.org/smart/rebuttals.html
For a really good insight to the proposed law, you can read the bill itself - it is a rather quick read and is written in fairly pain English compared to the present Tax Code.
Just click on the "bill number" choice under the search box and enter "hr25" (without the quotes) here:
http://thomas.loc.gov
The "loc" is Library of Congres - this is an official government website. I usually click on :Printer Freiendly Display" in the resulting window for the bill.
I'm sure you'll have other questions after your reading so just post them on the thread and someone will answer them. Keep in mind, please, that there are a number of vehement FairTax opponents (or status quo defenders) such as Willie Green, Your Nightmare, lewislynn, and even others so please keep that in mind when judging their posts.
A number of us are enthusiastic proponents of the FairTax
and like to help others learn about it. If you should view the comments to the President's Tax Panel you will note that the FairTax (hr25, s25) has more favorable comment activity than any other.
I too have concerns about the Fair Tax. I too have moral failings. I don't know what your moral failings is/are.
Why would you think someone on an internet board would know this?
Happens all the time.
Are you sure you pinged the right person?
You've just caught the Nightmare Tax fellow in another of his little nip-ups of the truth, it seems.Except he hasn't been able to tell me in which post I "fabricated" something.
Again and again, you get caught making stuff up.
Remember the quote which you postion portions of that said in part, "...the Fair Tax rate would have to be 20-25% higher to be revenue neutral..."? Then we find the paper you're quoting and you left out a part of the quote that makes all the difference...
That paper was saying the rate had to be 20-25% higher compared to a situation with no taxes.
As with the other misquotes, when taken in its entirety it buttresses the position of the Fair Tax suppporters.
I'm not the only one who's tired of you misquoting and misrepresenting.
No I bet you're gonna ask for post numbers! He he.... you just keep waiting for them, ok? If it gets dark, just keep waiitng, ok?
It's easy for everyone to see you misquoted Conservative Goddess. Nobody needs post numbers to see that.Can't find the post, can you? So you do your usual and say "everyone knows where it is." This has happened way too many times with you for you to be able to call yourself "Principled." You should get with the Admins and see if you can change your handle.
Remember the quote which you postion portions of that said in part, "...the Fair Tax rate would have to be 20-25% higher to be revenue neutral..."? Then we find the paper you're quoting and you left out a part of the quote that makes all the difference...That paper was saying the rate had to be 20-25% higher compared to a situation with no taxes.I remember y'all trying to parse the words of an economist to make it fit your needs (especially considering a tax rate 20-25% higher than no tax rate is no tax rate - 0.25 x 0% = 0%). Got a post number.
IR s/b ER
'Pologies - deed I did, I think!
Oh, well, read it again anyway ... I always am finding new things to like as I read it again.
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