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Communism's victims deserve to be remembered
Renew America ^ | May 10, 2005 | Michael Bates

Posted on 05/12/2005 1:13:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 05/12/2005 1:13:18 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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That country, along with Lithuania and Estonia, was given to Stalin, courtesy of President Franklin Roosevelt, immediately after the war.

I believe these countries were already occupied by the Red Army when FDR recognized them as part of the Soviet sphere of influence.

FDR never "had them," so he couldn't "give" them to Stalin.

However, he didn't have to recognize the Soviet occupation as legitimate.

3 posted on 05/12/2005 1:21:54 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Racer
Death to ... the rich in Russia who raided the country's resources and Her tradition.

Who, in one of history's supreme ironies, are almost exclusively ex-Communists.

4 posted on 05/12/2005 1:23:09 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Restorer

He was more concerned with Stalin's cooperation in a "Global New Deal" and the creation of the United Nations to enforce this international socialist vision.


5 posted on 05/12/2005 1:26:44 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Restorer

That's ridiculous. The communist party is the second biggest in Russia. They are the same as our democrats. They will likely be voted back into power one day soon.


6 posted on 05/12/2005 1:28:03 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I can't repeat it enough:

COMMUNISM WAS/IS WORSE THAN NAZISM.

Nazis blamed "inferior races" for all the world's problems. If you lived in Nazi Germany and were unfortunate enough to be of an "inferior race", you knew would eventually be targeted for extermination and you could either accept your fate or get out of the country.

Communists, OTOH, blame pariah "classes" for all the world's problems. The problem with that distinction is that it is completely arbitrary. On any given day, the Father of the Peoples could decide that you are a member of a pariah class, i.e. an "enemy of the people", and have you thrown in a camp or executed. Every citizen of the Soviet Union (even Stalin's closest confidants) was a potential target.

Such arbitrary, capricious, and random TERROR visited on an ENTIRE NATION was the apotheosis of evil.

7 posted on 05/12/2005 1:28:47 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It is ridiculous. It is also true. The irony is exceeded only by the billionaire capitalists of China, a country that still claims to be Communist.


8 posted on 05/12/2005 1:30:16 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And, to be fair, with Soviet cooperation in the war against Japan and various other issues.


9 posted on 05/12/2005 1:31:52 PM PDT by Restorer
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10 posted on 05/12/2005 1:33:11 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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Well another SOON to be addition to the list if the left have there way.... America: 30 Million


11 posted on 05/12/2005 1:35:14 PM PDT by Xenophon450
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Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation

Under Public Law 103-199, our Foundation has been authorized to design, construct and maintain an international Memorial to the more than 100 million victims of communism. For the past 18 months, we have appeared before federal and city commissions seeking approval of a site for our Memorial.

We now report, with a sense of pride and elation, that we have received official approval of a wonderful Capitol Hill site for our Memorial at the intersection of Massachusetts Avenue, N.W., New Jersey Avenue, N.W., and G Street, N.W. Our site is across from the Georgetown University Law Center and only two blocks from Union Station and the Metro.

There is a clear view of the U.S. Capitol, topped by the famous Statue of Freedom. An unobstructed view of the Capitol was a top priority because at the heart of our Memorial is a 10-foot bronze replica of the "Democracy" statue erected by Chinese students in Tiananmen Square in 1989 and based on our own Statue of Liberty.

12 posted on 05/12/2005 1:36:05 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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You bring up an excellent point.

Which is worse?

A. Killing 6 million people because they are members of a "race" you believe is inferior and inimical to yours.

B. Killing 6 million people more or less arbitrarily selected from the population and designated as "enemies of the people."

The general consensus is that A is worse than B. It gets classified as "genocide," and is considered the ultimate evil.

We don't even have a special word for B, indicating that it is, in many people's mind, not that big a deal.

13 posted on 05/12/2005 1:36:46 PM PDT by Restorer
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Yeah we got plenty of help from the Soviets in Japan. They declared war on Japan right after we dropped the big one. Thanks for all the help comrades. We should have nuked Moscow next.


14 posted on 05/12/2005 1:40:02 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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I didn't say they were a great help. I said we thought we needed their help. At Yalta nobody knew whether the bomb would work or not. Anybody who bases diplomacy on weapons that haven't been tested yet is really an idiot.


15 posted on 05/12/2005 1:41:44 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Restorer
Yeah we got plenty of help from the Soviets in Japan.

And the people of Eastern Europe paid too much for that help.

16 posted on 05/12/2005 1:41:53 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Restorer

It's like hate crimes laws. If you assault someone because of hatred, it carries a greater penalty than if you are just trying to rob someone, implying that theft is really not so bad.


17 posted on 05/12/2005 1:42:23 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Restorer

i say 6 million is 6 million anyway you slice it and just as bad if not worse than genocide due to the reasons the man before you Listed...But in schools today people are not taught about Stalin so theyll forget....Only how bad a man hitler was i had to bring up stalin in class some years ago to even get him some discussion, well if you want to hear something REALLY BAD i can tell you something I am 18 in Highschool on verge of graduation and was in Study hall one day and Some girl asked the teacher mind you shes a sophmore not a kindergardener "WHOS HITLER???" and STALIN???? forgetabout it no one here knows of him....BUT when go to far right like insane Nazism it resembles insane communism and if you become too much of an insane Commie then you begin to resemble a insane Nazi well thats how i look at it ...like a wheel but i maybe wrong....alot of Insanes Eh...


18 posted on 05/12/2005 1:45:23 PM PDT by Xenophon450
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To: Paleo Conservative

We also gave them part of Japan for doing nothing. They're still fighting over it today.


19 posted on 05/12/2005 1:46:00 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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We need a real, no-punches-pulled, Mel-Gibson-style movie about the horrors of the Soviet Union. Unfortunately, none of our fellow-traveler American movie makers would be interested. Maybe Mel would consider it?


20 posted on 05/12/2005 1:47:08 PM PDT by American Quilter
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