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The Islamization of French Schools - A disturbing report is leaked - (is Europe finished already?)
WEEKLY STANDARD.COM ^ | MAY 9, 2005 | OLIVIER GUITTA

Posted on 05/12/2005 12:57:48 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: 2banana

"It will end like in Kosovo - the murder and expulsion of all non muslims ..."

I will go you one better: it is starting like Kosovo.

When a critical mass of Muslims gather, their young men begin harassment of non-Muslim boys in school, harassment and rape of the girls with the result that non-Muslims move away.

"The report describes the flight of "French" residents and "European" shops--sometimes after they have been the targets of violence". This follows the Kosovo pattern as well - raids on farms, attacks on non-Muslim businesses.

The next phase will be when the Muslims take over the local police and courts. Non-Muslims then will have their complaints ignored when they become victims of harassment, beatings, raids, and rapes. There may not be Sharia in law, but will be in effect.

If any one tries to stop this process, the result will be a civil war between the Muslims and the government -- a war that Political Correctness will not allow the government to win if they have the guts to start it.

It is a VERY effective long term strategy.

As I noted before, we had such a war in Utah in the late 1800s; it took the troops of the Federal Government occupying and arresting every adult male in the Utah Territory for the Prophet of the Mormons to have a revelation that polygamy was no longer required by G-d.

The Europeans may not get the guts to do the equivalent until it is too late.


61 posted on 05/12/2005 2:52:17 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: CHARLITE
Let me guess, the new imams are brought in to fill 'need', to increase an ever increasing influx. And, if Holland is at all like France, the new residents go to all lenghths to get there, but hate their new country and want to improve it by making it an extension of their old neighboorhood. And, if they're like the French, most of the employable are on some sort of public assistance, paid for by the employed, taxpaying locals they hate. Nice gig if you can get it. That was Brigitte Bardot's crime, complaining publicly that the churches of the French countryside were disappearing and replaced by mosques.

I can't ever forget a published report of a statement made by the Imam of the largest mosque in Denmark - three years ago. He said, "Within five years, all of Denmark will be under Sharia law."

This already seems to be coming true. And the locals seem apathetic to this apparent coup. It's a bloodless (so far) revolution, an almost complete coup d'etat, because so many Europeans in power seem sympathetic to the immigrants on welfare, more than they are of their own taxpaying constituents. Amazing.

Maybe, with a 12% unemployment rate in "old Europe," they'll get up to 15% and then have a war against the Muslim invaders, so that they can at last have full employment. The trouble with that scenario is that most of the unemployed are newly-arrived islamists.

Right, and they love their freebie status. Where else can you go and get free care and assistance, not have to work and have plenty of time on your hands to conspire against your hosts? And the hosts are bending over backwards to meet their every need and whim. Yet, the Europeans seem to think that it isn't some sort of invasion or takeover. It's a revolution in all but name, and it's invited and welcomed by the people they're trying to conquer. It must almost be a hollow victory, to take over so easily, without the war that jihad often implies. The old Europe money in power are selling out Europe and the rest of the Europeans just to keep their power and money and few seem to care.

I've wanted to visit France for a very long time now, at least 15-20 years since I was in school, and now I fear, and I've said it before, that I'd better hurry if I want to see vineyards and Cathedrals and art and be able to travel freely without a burqa or male relative.

I'm curious, your son-in-law seems to have a handle on what's going on, and hopefully he is as concerned as we are, but I wonder do others like him care as well? It seems that those who do care out loud are punished, like Bardot, but it's hard to get an idea of how many regular Europeans care that there seems to be a coup d'etat going on, one that will ultimately change everything if allowed to go to it's intended conclusion.

62 posted on 05/12/2005 2:58:27 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: OpusatFR

Brilliant observation. Hitler and Goerring only wanted to steal the art - you're right the islamofascists will want to destroy it.


63 posted on 05/12/2005 3:23:02 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Billthedrill
"It is common in European intellectual circles to decry the expulsion of the Moors from Spain as an example of intolerance and to flatter themselves that they are much more enlightened these days."

They'd better rethink Spain's brilliance of the late 15th century before they go down the drain with their new "enlightenment."

Good comments, Bill. Thanks!

Char :)

64 posted on 05/12/2005 3:23:05 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing.)
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To: CHARLITE

Charles "The Hammer" Martel is spinning in his grave...


65 posted on 05/12/2005 3:25:18 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Mack the knife
"The next phase will be when the Muslims take over the local police and courts. Non-Muslims then will have their complaints ignored when they become victims of harassment, beatings, raids, and rapes."

This is already a fact of life in Holland. My son-in-law (who is a FReeper going by the name "freeholland") told me several years ago that only Muslims can get jobs as police in Holland now, and when non-Muslim Dutch citizens call the police during assaults, robberies, they take their time arriving, and once there, they just stand around until the Muslim criminals have completed the crime and disappeared.

My son-in-law's two brothers run a family restaurant in Amsterdam. For the past 3 years, they've been "visited" by Muslim gangs in the neighborhood in precisely the same way as the Chicago (and NYC) mob would "visit" businesses....to collect "protection money." It raises the cost of doing business. The gangs appear whenever they feel so inclined. They take what they want from the restaurant's cash register and they leave.

It is appalling, but the Dutch gov't invited these people into Holland, starting 40 years ago. The original laborers were mostly from Turkey, but over the decades they have come more and more from north Africa and the middle east and have begun to swarm Dutch society and national life like the worst plague of locusts ever to hit Salt Lake City. The cold blooded, senseless murder of Theo Van Gogh might be the beginning of a frightful trend, exactly as you describe, Mack.

Thanks for your comments. You're absolutely right in what you foresee.

66 posted on 05/12/2005 3:40:16 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing.)
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To: fortunecookie
It's a revolution in all but name, and it's invited and welcomed by the people they're trying to conquer. It must almost be a hollow victory, to take over so easily, without the war that jihad often implies. The old Europe money in power are selling out Europe and the rest of the Europeans just to keep their power and money and few seem to care.

Substitute Europeans with Americans and jihad with LaRaza, and we have the same thing here, non? This is Marxism I being spread right here.........by both parties.

FMCDH(BITS)

67 posted on 05/12/2005 3:52:40 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: fortunecookie
"Where else can you go and get free care and assistance, not have to work and have plenty of time on your hands to conspire against your hosts? And the hosts are bending over backwards to meet their every need and whim."

Here. Haven't you heard us screaming?

68 posted on 05/12/2005 4:01:04 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: monkeywrench

Oh, lol, too true. I was trying to be rhetorical, (but am so torqued by the thing I guess I missed my mark ;-),) as the French notoriously open their doors and throw out the welcome mat and gift basket to those who wish them harm. Yeah, we are just a stones throw away from some of these same problems, if they aren't already problems in localized areas. We are a bit bigger than France. Yeah, like Bardot and others, some of us are screaming, to deaf ears. Sigh.


69 posted on 05/12/2005 4:05:19 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: mikeus_maximus
A society that drinks in all cultures and ideas in equal doses swallows its own poison.

Which country are you referring to? It certainly could be the US.

70 posted on 05/12/2005 4:12:34 PM PDT by HighFlier
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To: nothingnew

Yeah, we are just a step or 2 behind. Happily sliding behind them on that spiral downward. And some would argue that we could have jihad in places as well. No doubt socialism is becoming more and more prevalent in our country, too. I am just beyond words as to why the French are so blind and accepting of those who hate them, I was attempting to be rhetorical, but fell short. Yes, it's clear 'we' (pushed by greedy people in power) have the same issues here, maybe not so wide spread yet, or advanced, or well accepted, and also falling on deaf ears. Marxism and socialism are fast replacing what our forefathers envisioned, visiting any college campus, happily run by a majority of lefties, illustrates that point.


71 posted on 05/12/2005 4:46:58 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: CHARLITE
I don't see many saviors of western civilization coming forward to stem the tide of aggressive, voracious, militant Islam.

Western civilization is finished. America will be the last to fall - but fall we will. So you are right saying that no one will defend Europe. In fact, I predict wholesale slaughter of anyone who doesn't join the Islamic religion in the whole of Europe. Hope the French are happy. The idiots allowed illegal immigration and lost their country. America has allowed illegal immigration and are in the process of losing ours.

72 posted on 05/12/2005 4:59:35 PM PDT by swampfox98 (Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
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To: Podkayne
You are right. It sounds simple and it's direct but the first time I read it, it tore my head off. Actually it says so much, but 'stay together' is the primary thought or else nothing else matters. Tougher than it sounds. That was said in something like 247 AD, or there abouts...so I guess the problems we have are not so new. The man had 5 sons and this was his advise to them on his death bed.
73 posted on 05/13/2005 8:05:28 AM PDT by SMARTY (Lucius Septimus Severus to his sons: "Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else")
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To: CHARLITE
France = Woody Allen's Paradise.
74 posted on 05/13/2005 8:12:31 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: CHARLITE

I hope we open our eyes and see what is coming our way and take steps to prevent it, but I am not optimistic.
Thanks for posting.


75 posted on 05/13/2005 8:24:17 AM PDT by kalee
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To: TR Jeffersonian

Western civ ping


76 posted on 05/13/2005 8:24:52 AM PDT by kalee
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To: CHARLITE

A Dutch friend who has been living in the US for 30 years recently returned to Holland to visit relatives. She said that the moment she stepped off the plane, she thought she was in the Middle East.

The cancer of Islam has metastasized thoughout Europe. It is only a matter time for the rest of the civilized world unless decisive action is taken to eradicate Islam. Islam is NOT a religion. It is a militant movement to take over the world.


77 posted on 05/13/2005 8:32:59 AM PDT by ArmedNReady
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

"Europe is missing religion and Islam is missing enlightenment, is it possible that the combination will improve both?"

When has Islam ever improved anything. The only thing that I can think of is that they encourage muslims to become martyrs so that makes a few less muslims that will need to be killed to save the civilized world. Unfortunately, innocents often die at the hands of martyrs (murderers).



78 posted on 05/13/2005 8:36:16 AM PDT by ArmedNReady
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Don't we ever learn?

The ONLY WAY to fight Islam is to ban it.

We must not tolerate it. We must not negotiate with it. Why? Because their mission is to make Islam the only allowable lifestyle on the planet. They want to wipe us out.

Every civilized country must recognise that Islam is not a religion, but a seditious totalitarian political system which seeks to replace the constitution of every country with the Koran. They are nazis infiltrating our free societies masquerading as a religion.

As Oriana Fallaci said, they breed like rats making children at the rate of 3.8 times the native population, and eat up Europe from the inside. Then they will destroy all the wonderful art and culture of the Enlightenment.

Europeans, Do Something!!


79 posted on 05/16/2005 4:31:30 PM PDT by skidd (Three most abundant things in the universe: stupidity, ignorance, and hydrogen.)
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To: Steely Tom
I wonder if the malcontents who were doing the shouting had aggressive militant Islam in mind. Probably they were clueless.

Not true, they know what they are doing. The left has been hand in hand with Islam for much of the last century and all of this. Hitler, the National Socialists Worker's Party, enjoyed the company of his fascist Muslims. The left is collectivist. And, so are the Muslims.

The world has two poles. One where people who value themselves live their lives as individuals. The other where people who feel inadequate come together under the pretense that someone will lead and take care of them. The collectivists are made up of two groups, the large dopey (literally) followers and the few scheming con artist leaders -- Clinton, Sharpton, Jackson, and so on.

Islam and the left have the same mode of operation. The leaders are usually little more than street corner gangsters looking for power from a mob. The Islamics have used this style since its start. They employ small bands of thugs who lead small street corner gang style mobs. It works against peaceful people not organized.

The left does the same thing. As a European invention, the left has been more effective at this game. They feel more confident that after they get the chains on a society, they can control the Muslims. They find their mobs in universities, union halls, and bureaucracies. Many of the so called secular left would just as soon run a mob with a rag wrapped around their head just to get control.

I fear that New Europe will be driven to reorganize in a more effective political-military structure. One option is a American style of government. I don't think they will adopt such. The other is a fascist style. I mean fascist in the original sense, a strong paternal leader. It will take such to get the job done of beating back Islam by necessarily killing a lot of them. Europe has done so in the past. I see no reason why the can't again.

The strength that Islam holds against societies not organized for war is the relentless attacks of small teams of gangsters. When they come up against an organized, disciplined army led by a strong leader, they get slaughtered. Their strength then becomes their weakness.

Alas, this army will have to kill a lot of them. Maybe, this time the conquering Infidels can liberate Mecca, well better yet, flatten it.

80 posted on 05/21/2005 3:30:25 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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