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What Is a “Conservative”?
NRO ^ | May 11, 2005 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 05/11/2005 6:39:25 PM PDT by neverdem

Edited on 05/11/2005 8:46:27 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: SierraWasp

You'll get no argument from me.

BTW, how the hell did you ever decypher what I wrote? When I reread it and your response, I could barely understand it.

For clarification for other who might read it:

Starr WAS NOT talking about the so called 'nuclear' option. He was criticizing the Dems for their obstruction but cBS twisted it to make it appear that Starr was attacking the GOP.


101 posted on 05/13/2005 1:05:55 PM PDT by Badray (If you don't want to change your mind, at least get some more info and make a new decision.)
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To: Badray
Hay, Ray! Ya gotta take a Dutchman for what he means, not what he says!!! (I knew whatchew meant the whole time!)(Grin!)

I also listened to Limbaugh & Hannity yesterday, so I knew pretty much what was going down with the lates Demonicrat devilish deviousness & decadence!!!

102 posted on 05/13/2005 1:16:53 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
The three shows I listed were all about white people have entirely too much fun and didn't included any "causing" about righting all the wrongs of slavery, discrimination, etc.!!!

It had nothing to do with the shows you listed. It was the references to the 50s era, the height of Jim Crow. Often when we long for the good ole days when freedom abounded, we forget those who had none. I would change much about today but I would not go back.

103 posted on 05/13/2005 4:36:42 PM PDT by farmfriend (Send in the Posse)
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To: editor-surveyor
Did I miss something?

Yes, my statement had nothing to do with the programs.

When we reminisce about the past, each of us sees our own past, and not that of others.

Exactly the problem. He referenced returning to the 50s era and that was the height of Jim Crow. Though there is much I would change today, I would not return to that era for anything.

104 posted on 05/13/2005 4:55:05 PM PDT by farmfriend (Send in the Posse)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping....after dindin


105 posted on 05/13/2005 4:57:03 PM PDT by wardaddy ( Lucchese Belt Raised)
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To: farmfriend

I understand, but who can stay perpetually focused on the worst aspects of an era when there was also much more to be honored than exists as of today???


106 posted on 05/13/2005 4:57:35 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
who can stay perpetually focused on the worst aspects of an era when there was also much more to be honored

Many among us do not see the "so much to be honored". How much freedom was there really when a whole segment of society had none?

107 posted on 05/13/2005 5:00:13 PM PDT by farmfriend (Send in the Posse)
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To: wardaddy

My mother and now my wife calls it "dindin" for feeding my mutt then and now. LOL!


108 posted on 05/13/2005 5:03:37 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: farmfriend
Well, my focus was entirely somewhere else. I admire the way people in this nation, and especially in the southern states, were able to change their attitudes. I well remember the Democrats, and in particular, Algore's father fighting and even filabustering the Civil Rights laws so desired by Republicans that the votes were totally lopsided!!!

Now, what I can't understand is why the "Black Community" cannot seem to ever bring themselves to be intellectually honest about WHO stood up for them when it REALLY counted with meaningful law making!!! So we did all that and things have certainly improved and I don't think only of the negative of that time anymore as those issues were resolved!!! I've "moved on!"

109 posted on 05/13/2005 5:15:35 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Now, what I can't understand is why the "Black Community" cannot seem to ever bring themselves to be intellectually honest about WHO stood up for them when it REALLY counted with meaningful law making!!!

Many do, this is why we have project 21. The others are just as blind as the environmentalist.

110 posted on 05/13/2005 5:27:53 PM PDT by farmfriend (Send in the Posse)
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To: farmfriend
I assume you are referring to the UN's and Maurice Strong's Agenda 21, right? We have a lot of "the blind leading the blind in all societies, don't we?

I will never fully understand the Black Muslim movement, or the so-called American Indian movement in the sense that they struggled to get OUT of the melting pot instead of working to get IN!!!

111 posted on 05/13/2005 7:36:37 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: farmfriend; SierraWasp
" He referenced returning to the 50s era and that was the height of Jim Crow."

I can't speak for everywhere, but in the Bay Area, the 50s were the height of the american black economy. Oakland was dominated by successful black owned small businesses such as restaurants, cleaning shops, auto repair, grocery stores, and pawn shops, and the civil rights movement of the 60s destroyed them by driving a wedge between working class whites and blacks. Those businesses largely have not returned. Oakland is on the edge now, unless you are a multi-millionaire that owns highrise office space.

112 posted on 05/13/2005 8:51:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: farmfriend; SierraWasp
"How much freedom was there really when a whole segment of society had none?"

I think that you're making much of a false stereotype. Yes there was a large segment of society that was shut out, but it was not cut on racial lines. Lower class whites and blacks were not much different in terms of opportunity. The common factors among them were poor education, and crime. Both of those factors have gotten worse for blacks in particular. Education has been denied to our lower class citizens by dumbing down the schools.

The 50s were better for the lower class.

113 posted on 05/13/2005 9:02:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: Qwinn

Well said.


114 posted on 05/13/2005 11:48:39 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --Lord Acton)
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To: SierraWasp; rdb3
I assume you are referring to the UN's and Maurice Strong's Agenda 21, right?

No I was refereing to Project 21

Project 21 is an initiative of The National Center for Public Policy Research to promote the views of African-Americans whose entrepreneurial spirit, dedication to family and commitment to individual responsibility has not traditionally been echoed by the nation's civil rights establishment.

115 posted on 05/14/2005 8:42:06 AM PDT by farmfriend (Send in the Posse)
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To: SierraWasp

I don't watch the network news. Never did, unless I was looking for something specific so I didn't hear the 'report' about Starr's comment but while not convinced that Starr actually said it, I wasn't ready to believe that he didn't -- until I heard the Rush show that you heard.

But then there are the 280 million people who only heard the cBS "Starr said" comment and will never know that he didn't say it.

BTW, next time that I write something that I don't understand, I'll ping you to interpret for me, okay? ;-)


116 posted on 05/14/2005 10:33:17 AM PDT by Badray ((Under construction))
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To: neverdem

good article bump


117 posted on 05/14/2005 10:40:37 AM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: Badray; farmfriend
"next time that I write something that I don't understand, I'll ping you to interpret for me, okay?"

Maybe you'd better ping farmfriend. She just bowled me over with all that "Jim Crow" stuff that I wasn't even considering or contemplating as I guess it never sunk as far into my generation as it did her's.

For awhile I was really doin some heavy duty soul searchin and re-readin my own replies to see what racist, bigoted, homophobic thang I had said!!! (grin) I once got pounced on, here on FR for typin slovenly, southern slang like the word "thang," above, for bein an unmitigate vile racist bastard!!!

farmfriend... I sure thought you knew me a whole lot better than that, but I was beginnin to wonder... stuff really gets misinterpreted on this site awfully easy!!!

118 posted on 05/14/2005 8:56:00 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
For awhile I was really doin some heavy duty soul searchin and re-readin my own replies to see what racist, bigoted, homophobic thang I had said!!! (grin) I once got pounced on, here on FR for typin slovenly, southern slang like the word "thang," above, for bein an unmitigate vile racist bastard!!!

As I recall I defended you during that episode solely because I don't believe you are a racist. I only brought up the Jim Crow thing because I have seen several on this forum complain about it. I even got nailed with the same spear I threw at you. It's all good. No worries.

119 posted on 05/14/2005 9:27:59 PM PDT by farmfriend (Send in the Posse)
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To: SierraWasp

I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. That's especially true if it seems out of character for the person.

Sometimes things (thangs) are just taken out of context in error and sometimes deliberately to try to discredit you.


120 posted on 05/15/2005 1:26:50 AM PDT by Badray ((Under construction))
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