Clerical Losers (After Benedict XVI, liberal American church leaders are learning about penance)

The American Prowler ^ | 5/11/2005 | The Prowler

[steve8714]

The TM is lessimportant than the attitude that the bishops, not the Pope, are the ultimate authority in the Church. The new bishop of Belleville is another asshat who needs a vocation change- he is a Bernardinite.

[netmilsmom]

>>ANOTHER CARDINAL PERHAPS looking over his soldier is Los Angeles's Roger Mahony, who more than any other American Catholic leaders except Cardinal Bernard Law, is stained by the covering up for pedophiles in the Catholic Church.<<

Could I nominate Pilla next?

[Carry_Okie]

Bernie Ward is a leftist "Catholic" priest who does the 10-1 evening talk radio slot from KGO in San Francisco. He occasionally does talking head stuff on Fox when they need an obnoxious, in your face, fast talking, hard leftist.

Truly a despicable human being.

[GipperGal]

LOL! Are you from the land of Taj Mahoney too? Good to have someone else to commiserate with!

[GipperGal]

Hallelujah Ping!!!

[maryz]

Thanks. If you catch Ward on B-16, do let us know how he's taking it. Otherwise, we'll be concerned. ;-)

[maryz]

No, the biggest losers are here in the United States, where influential, liberal Catholic priests who have actively and publicly defied the Vatican

I have been fighting this urge since I read this piece earlier . . . but -- at the risk of sounding like my niece at 14 or so: LOOOOOOOooo-sers! LOL!

[redgolum]

Pavone is doing great work where he is. Putting him in an archbishop's hat would just slow him down.

[SaltyJoe]

Schaudenfreud is a sin. The Pope, being of German origin, probably knows this better than others. I doubt that he and his closest followers are tap dancing on tables over other's misery. It's not like charity to snub "losers".

My beef is with the Evil One. He's the real loser. But the most we can do against such a supernatural is reject the father of lies.

We must jealously pursue all other mortals (with the Divine jealousy that God has for our souls Exodus 20:4-5).

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/exodus/exodus20.htm
4
You shall not carve idols for yourselves in the shape of anything in the sky above or on the earth below or in the waters beneath the earth;
5
(2) you shall not bow down before them or worship them. For I, the LORD, your God, am a jealous God, inflicting punishment for their fathers' wickedness on the children of those who hate me, down to the third and fourth generation;

FOOTNOTE:
http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/exodus/exodus20.htm#foot2

2 [5] Jealous: demanding exclusive allegiance, such as a wife must have for her husband.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

""Some of these gentlemen may have thought they would outlive the strict enforcement of doctrine. The confirmation and ascension of Pope Benedict is evidence that they will not.""

All praise be to God!

[RobbyS]

Whatever, McCarrick was dublicitous in his handing of the Ratzinger letter. He and Mahoney are not facing the "Young Turks" in the Church. IAC. Read Peter Boyle's article in the May 16th New Yorker. It may be that the secularists are beginning to realize that liberal Catholics have been feeding them a line, that they can no longer count on the Conference to support the program of the Democratic Party, But as far as the Tridentine mass is concerned, the pope WILL not subject the people to any monkeying around with the liturgy. As you know this stuff has been going on since the Middle Ages, and all it does to confuse us all. Maritain once wrote that he never expected more from liturgical reform than that the liturgy would be translated into English. Instead we went all the way from a modified form of the dialogue mass to the
1972 reforms. The pope has criticized the turning around of the Altar because it was never mandated and turned the priest into a performer. But as a conservative he knows it is too late to spin it around again.

[Romish_Papist]

Translation for #11?

[AnAmericanMother]

It's never too late.

There are Episcopal churches that still celebrate ad orientem.

B-16 can just start with the "historical" churches and work his way back from there. Might have to pull up and re-set a few floor tiles (and a relic or two if they are under the altar), but they moved 'em out, they can move 'em back.

[JohnnyZ]

Aw, Sinky, don't be mad that you weren't important enough to make the article. Where is it that you are a deacon again?

[AnAmericanMother]

High time.

I know a few AmChurch folks that are nervous. I figured a housecleaning would be coming (and so did they), but this just confirms it.

[ELS]

With Latin as the official language of the Roman Catholic Church, why are Latin Masses prohibited in the United States? They can only be said by dispensation?

A priest can say the New Mass (as of 1969/1970) in Latin without any formal permission from his bishop. However, this occurs even more rarely than the traditional Latin Mass.

A priest must receive permission from his bishop to say the traditional Latin Mass (pre-1969/1970). There is actually an ongoing debate as to whether this is necessary. But, the practical reality for now is that it is necessary to receive permission from the ordinary.

Catholics who love the old Mass, and the beautiful sacred music that usually accompanied it, have much to be optimistic about with Benedict XVI.

[It's me]

Schaudenfreud is a sin. The Pope, being of German origin, probably knows this better than others. I doubt that he and his closest followers are tap dancing on tables over other's misery. It's not like charity to snub "losers".

Oh please

What Benedict XVI is doing, beginning to clean out the church, is not schadenfreude it is leading the church in the teachings of Christ.

For you to suggest that it is, is a bit disingenuous of you.

[sinkspur]

Where is it you are a deacon again?

Deacon Fred, exposing SpongeBob for the perv that he is.

[It's me]

The pope has criticized the turning around of the Altar because it was never mandated and turned the priest into a performer. But as a conservative he knows it is too late to spin it around again.

Why is it too late? I don't think it is too late.

Just put the priest on the other side.

[cyborg]

amen!