Police used Taser on pregnant driver (Seattle)

The Seattle P.I. ^ | May 10, 2005 | HECTOR CASTRO

[5Madman2]

Then your beef would be with the governing agency (City, County, State etc.) and how they use the Police. I can understand that.

When it comes to speed/school zones, it is a no win for the Cops. If it is enforced, we are revenue generating tools of the state.

Let a kid or pedestrian get hit, or a major accident occurs that is directly caused by speed and every one screams "where were the cops and why didn't they prevent this?"

[Revelation 911]

The maximum speed limit within the city limits of my community is 30 mph. All three school zones are 20 mph.

I prefer cash but if you work for a reputable business you can just sign the check over to me.

have I mentioned I am presently working gratis ?

[Delta 21]

sshhhhh! They will hear us talking about them!

[Delta 21]

To: Delta 21

"These days its a taser."

And tomorrow they should just shoot the women??

380 posted on 05/10/2005 9:44:42 PM CDT by shellshocked

Calm down and stop being so melodramatic.....

You first. (neh neh neh neh)

To me, cops are a threat. When confronted by one, it is reasonable these days to assume one's life is in danger.

I am sure that when a cop pulls you over, he feels exactly the same way about you.

[Proud_texan]

"She just had to sign the ticket."

Just tagging on here cause it seemed a good place but I was watching a documentary on Ruby Ridge last night and they showed Randy Weaver's arrest record and in the signature slot it clearly said "Refused to sign".

Perhaps local laws are different but it struck me that that's all that would have been required.

[5Madman2]

"Perhaps local laws are different but it struck me that that's all that would have been required"

Depends on the state law, department Policy, and what the local prosecutor is willing to accept

[5Madman2]

They'll get over

Maybe not

[Proud_texan]

Thanks and it figures. After watching the Ruby Ridge documentary I tried to count the number of local/state/federal agencies with police power (and probably different rules) and got overwhelmed....

[Delta 21]

I advocate obeying the posted speed limits in a school zone.

I advocate not resisting arrest.

I advocate obeying a police officer when he is giving you an order to comply when you have been caught speeding a school zone.

I advocate listening to the facts as presented and forming a well well informed, realistic opinion.

I advocate not putting words into my opponents mouth, but letting him hang himself with his own rope.

[Delta 21]

...the story of my life!!!

[shellshocked]

"I am sure that when a cop pulls you over, he feels exactly the same way about you."

Of course, they do. Clouds and fuzzy bunnies are a threat to them.

[shellshocked]

Sure, now add to the list, "I advocate not tasering a pregnant women instead of using better restraint techniques."

[5Madman2]

Here in Tx, refua\sal to sign the citation for a Class C Misdemeanor (Traffic Ticket and Minor Offenses) amounts to a demand to see a Magistrate Now.

Some departments will allow the "Refused to Sign" if the DA accepts. Not many do. The Supreme Court has Upheld taking minor violators before the Magistrate.

Naturally, some Lawyer out there will take a "Refused to Sign" on a citation and turn it into a case that the violator was denied his right to see the Magistrate immediately as prescribed in the law. Just as quickly they will scream Excessive Force and unlawful arrest if they are removed from the vehicle to see the Judge when they refuse to sign

I am unsure of the document you saw on the Randy Weaver story, but it could have been any number of administrative documents that go along with an arrest that are not citations

[MEGoody]

"And your wrongly suggest that all school zones are the same at all times, and that all zone limits are equally good or bad."

What I'm suggesting is that those who have studied the traffic patterns, etc. and set the speed limits are much more qualified to determine what the save speed is than you are.

To suggest that it is perfectly okay to speed through a school zone is moronic.

[Proud_texan]

I'm not clear on what the document was either other than it looked like it _may_ have been a booking record in that it had the standard front and side mug shot, social security number, weight, height, etc. and a signature line.

Regardless of the laws here I'm gonna sign, just can't win an argument like that on the spot with a cop and like the rest of the world, some can be a little, um, cranky.

Plus I suspect they must get a lot of grief. After getting a speeding ticket (deserved I might add) a while back after it was over the cop actually thanked me for being so polite so I figured he must not get a lot of that.

Didn't have any influence on me getting the ticket, but there are so many laws I suspect he could have started finding additional infractions if he had a mind to.

[5Madman2]

Believe it or not, most cops have already decided what action (Ticket, warning, etc) they are going to take before they even speak to you. They base it on the severity of the violation and whatever department policy is.

I have given some real loudmouthed a##holes warnings because that was what was warranted, regardless of the attitude. Most cops actually stick to that.

[Delta 21]

[Proud_texan]

"most cops have already decided what action"

Interesting. I always wondered if my Texas 100 sticker made any difference. I figured probably not but I'll continue to participate anyway.

[JWinNC]

"nobody should have to sign anything under duress or threat of imprisonment"

amen

[shellshocked]

200 Deaths? That it? We taser pregnant women for that and kill their unborn child?

45,000 people die on our roads each year and you want to kill unborn children for speeding that cause 200 of those?

5 gallon buckets kill that many. I bet we don't taser pregnant women who leave 5 gallon buckets around.