Police used Taser on pregnant driver (Seattle)

The Seattle P.I. ^ | May 10, 2005 | HECTOR CASTRO

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Hey, ding dong. Hitting a kid with a car at 15 mph will kill them too!

Ding-dong this...are you insane?

[sam_paine]

No. I'm not insane. I know that a 3000lb auto is dangerous to all pedestrians at 32, 21, 19, and 10 mph. Kids too.

[Revelation 911]

Ding-dong this...are you insane?

hes got a point though - why is 20 safe and 21 or 25 or 32 not?

A 100 yr old doing 15 mph is just as dangerous as a pregnant lady doing 32

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I have already said several times I do not agree with using the tazer on her.

SHE chose to have the situtation raised to a higher level. She was pregnant, she should have put her baby first. Since she referred to her baby as an unborn fetus, I understand why she didn't put the baby first.

[JoeSixPack1]

Ah, the old "Deathgrip on the steering wheel" trick.

Give her a lobotomy, sterilize her, send her to a re-education camp, take her kids away, force her into a 80 hour work week of community service, tattoo her forehead, chop off her thumbs, kick her dog, confiscate her vehicle, make her eat non-kosher food, force her to register as a pubbie, assign her books to read, take her shoes.......

Then give her a couple million dollars, 40 acres and a mercedes without a steering wheel!

32 in a 20, and won't sign the ticket?? Criminal!!
Deathgrip on the steering wheel?? Childish!!
Sueing the LEO, the city, the school, DOT and the weatherman.... American as applepie.

(/sarc)

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Because he's talking apples and oranges. Dead is dead. It's faster to stop a car traveling at 15 mph than at 32 mph, if a child walks in front of a speeding car.

[Natural Law]

I'm sure the woman was a world class a-hole, but you don't Taser a pregnant woman, especially over a traffic ticket.

[OldEagle]

It occurs to me that the officer could have told the nice lady that she was ticketed and she could do anything with the ticket that she wanted to but it still would be $126.00 (or whatever).
By the way, as she was taking her child to the African American Academy, there is a possibility of she herself being AfAm and that begs the question of the race of the Taserist.

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No. I'm not insane. I know that a 3000lb auto is dangerous to all pedestrians at 32, 21, 19, and 10 mph. Kids too.

She had a child with her she was dropping off. She should have already know you don't speed in a school zone. If someone had been driving 32 mph in a 20 mph school zone, and HER child was ran over and killed, she would be screaming for justice.

[HamiltonJay]

Maybe where you live, but lots of places believe it or not.. KIDS STILL WALK TO SCHOOL. Your attempt to spin fails miserably.

Kids being killed in school bus accidents is far less than number killed being struck by cars nationally.

[Atlas Sneezed]

32 mph in school zone is endangering all those FORMER fetuses who have actually survived despite the leftist abortionists, and are going to school!

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Get real. 32 isn't endangering anyone unless there are special circumstances. Most school zone speed limits are a joke, and an exercise in needless genuflection to government education camps.

[BlackbirdSST]

32 mph in a 20 mph school zone is enough to kill children if she hit them.

20 mph in a 20 mph school zone is enough to kill children IF she hit them. geeez! Blackbird.

[Atlas Sneezed]

A traffic stop is a non-custodial arrest. The Police officer has the otion of issuing a citaion or taking the violator forthwith to a magistrate. The Citation is the default option.

The violators signature is a promise to appear, and acts as a bond. If the violator refuses to sign, they are stating they want to see a judge NOW. Depending on the state, the officer is required by law to take the violator to the judge "Without Delay"

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Of course, if our roadside tax collectors follow rational rules, they would not need to use this criminal procedure (note that the accused does not have the same rights to jury and presumption of innocence as does an actual criminal). The cop has the vehicle reg. The driver's license, and every chance to take a photo of the accused. The signature requirement is irrational and needless, as is tasering people who see the stupidity of the requirement.

If she doesn't show up in court, issue an arrest warrant.

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20 mph in a 20 mph school zone is enough to kill children IF she hit them. geeez! Blackbird.

The question isn't 20 mph in a 20 mph school zone. It's 32 mph in a 20 mph school zone. Double jeeze.

Pat

[texan75010]

This is why police men and women get no respect. When you brutalize citizens you get a bad reputation and you get sued.

I wonder if this were an 80 year old woman. Would they tazer her? I really don't care if she cursed out the cop and made an ass out of herself. I don't care if she was on the way to get an abortion. There is simply NO EXCUSE for tazering a pregnant woman.

When you tazer a guilty pregnant woman you are also tazering an INNOCENT LIFE. If it were two months later and the woman had her baby in a car seat would it be OK for the cop to reach over and tazer the infant? Is that OK with you so called compassionate law abiding citizens? You so called pro-life advocates?

Seems to me some of you people care more about protecting the cops right to harm than the rights of an innocent unborn baby to not get electrocuted to death.

To be on the side of the police in this matter is to be OK with shocking a new born, and that to me is a sickening and perverted thought.

When some nut holds their family hostage and threatens to do harm, the police don't rain down a hail of bullets killing everyone do they? The negotiate before using force and the take steps to NOT do harm to the innocent.

That is a far cry from what this officer did and I would sue the living crap out them as well as those who came up with this idiotic protocol that allows you to tazer the Innocent.

[Atlas Sneezed]

32 in a school zone is way too fast and deserves a hefty ticket.

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You have never seen a speed limit posted lower than safety dictates?

[Atlas Sneezed]

Driving is a privilege.

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At least that is what the fascists teach.

Freedom of movement is a right.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Signing the ticket is for identification purposes. There actually is a significant problem with people using a fake ID with somone else's valid identification. The requirement of the signature is to protect innocent people from being stuck with other people's fines.

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How does making someone scribble help this? Is the cop really comparing signatures? I've never seen that in my (ahem) several speeding tickets (many of which I beat in court due to "in-cop-etence").

[rlmorel]

I agree, it probably doesn't seem like the right tool. But then again, we weren't there. Who knows WHAT she did or said. And, don't mess with pregnant women....they are a bundle of hormones with protective intstincts at or approching their highest level....

[Atlas Sneezed]

You'd be whistling a different tune if she had ran over little kids. NO ONE speeds in a school zone.

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She didn't, and neither do the multitudes who do this every day. School zone limits are a joke, unless there are children out on the street.