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Catholic judge's abortion ruling stirs debate
Sun-Sentinel.com ^ | May 7, 2005 | Missy Stoddard,

Posted on 05/07/2005 6:44:15 AM PDT by madprof98

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1 posted on 05/07/2005 6:44:16 AM PDT by madprof98
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The moment we kowtow to a religious party, we're essentially for sale," Alvarez said.
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Wrong you POS. You've already been bought and paid for by the NAGS and the democratic "abortion on demand" crowd!


2 posted on 05/07/2005 6:47:49 AM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: madprof98

Let him believe in his Jesus, because when he dies, he will have to answer the REAL Jesus.


3 posted on 05/07/2005 6:50:58 AM PDT by Dacula
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That's the bottom line and as it should be.


4 posted on 05/07/2005 6:52:04 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: pissant

Kowtow is being drammatic. What a DQ.


5 posted on 05/07/2005 6:52:58 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: madprof98

Benedict is correct. The church needs to weed out nonbelievers. It is astounding that ostensibly intelligent people do not understand that a person can meet all of society's obligations and still fail to meet the test of church membership. Would the judge oppose a church that opposes war? Would he have a problem with the church standing against gambling, especially state sponsored lotteries? How is it, then, that he is offended when the church opposes abortion? The church is not infringing on his role as a judge. It is infringing on his membership in a church that he refuses to respect. It is telling him that he may not sin in the eyes of the church even if it is legal to do so. Sometimes the laws of the church are more stringent than the laws of society.
The Judge's Jesus is, like him, a codependent puddle of moral indifference.


6 posted on 05/07/2005 6:54:21 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE)
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To: Amos the Prophet

Anyone know this judges' email?


7 posted on 05/07/2005 6:55:55 AM PDT by Bushforlife (I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born. ~Ronald Reagan)
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8 posted on 05/07/2005 6:56:43 AM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: madprof98

By Alvarez's own telling, he long ago ceased to be a practicing Catholic. He has no more basis for complaint against the Catholic Church than he would against a country club that barred him from its course for not paying his membership dues.


9 posted on 05/07/2005 6:56:52 AM PDT by Rockingham
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Benedict is correct. The church needs to weed out nonbelievers.

Thats a little much. Put down the pitchfork.

I gotta think the Church would like to draw in as many agnostics as possible. I also think that Love is something Jesus didn't take for granted. Show some.

In any case, a Church is like any other club in which they are free to make thier own rules and taking communion is not a State sanctioned right.

10 posted on 05/07/2005 7:02:14 AM PDT by corkoman (Overhyped)
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To: madprof98
"The moment we kowtow to a religious party, we're essentially for sale," Alvarez said.

The right to life is in the Constitution, too, buddy. You've already been "bought and sold" to the loudest bidder. Get over yourself. You're just an activist.

11 posted on 05/07/2005 7:05:52 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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Let him follow the law, not make it up by religion pretense. If you want to make laws from the religious point of view like no selling bear on Sundays and crap like that then do it through the legislative system. If the church tries pulling crap like this then it will just give reason for secularists to discriminate against Christians.
12 posted on 05/07/2005 7:08:47 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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Who paid for this 13 year olds abortion? The state, i.e., the innocent tax payers?
13 posted on 05/07/2005 7:09:19 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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----"The moment we kowtow to a religious party, we're essentially for sale," Alvarez said.

My Jesus is a nice guy who wouldnt pick up a phone and punish me.
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Let me see.

If you believe in your church, you don't ever think it's kowtowing when you follow there teachings.

As for the second point, I remind you of this:

A man named Ananias, however, with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property.
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He retained for himself, with his wife's knowledge, some of the purchase price, took the remainder, and put it at the feet of the apostles.
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But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart so that you lied to the holy Spirit and retained part of the price of the land?
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While it remained unsold, did it not remain yours? And when it was sold, was it not still under your control? Why did you contrive this deed? You have lied not to human beings, but to God."
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When Ananias heard these words, he fell down and breathed his last, and great fear came upon all who heard of it.

Acts 5:1-5


14 posted on 05/07/2005 7:11:06 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: madprof98

Giving communion is an internal religious matter and a church has every right to distribute communion or not to whoever she wishes. It is improper for a judge to tell a church what to do. That is a violation of the separation of church and state.


15 posted on 05/07/2005 7:11:45 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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Alvarez needs to learn who is going to judge the living and the dead at the time of judgment.
16 posted on 05/07/2005 7:11:53 AM PDT by Jewelsetter
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To: madprof98
My Jesus is a nice guy

MY Jesus is the Son of God.

17 posted on 05/07/2005 7:13:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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"My Jesus is a nice guy and not someone to pick up the phone and ... punish me," the judge said.

He must use the same Jesus the priestly abomination in the Episcopal church uses. The one with the horns.

Preachers, ministers, and priests have got to start teaching more about Satan and the Antichrist in their churches. A brief description is all that's needed to get their attention.

18 posted on 05/07/2005 7:13:53 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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...though he said he no longer practices.

Ah.

He became "unsettled" with church leadership when dozens of cases of priests molesting children came to light.

Might be a valid reason not to tithe (or rather, redirect your tithe so that the bishop doesn't get his hands on it), but not a valid reason to cut one's self off from communion with Christ.

19 posted on 05/07/2005 7:14:13 AM PDT by The Iguana
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...The judge is troubled that jurists may be pressured by those who believe religion trumps state law.

I wonder if he would feeel equally sanguine in his adjudications if the Florida state legislature passed, say, a constitutional amendment authorizing the beating of Jews.

20 posted on 05/07/2005 7:16:54 AM PDT by The Iguana
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