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Posted on 05/06/2005 1:11:46 PM PDT by thejokker
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To: joesnuffy
All I can say is that these guys from Omaha had another energy solution locked up when Enron who owned the windmills made a deal with Nebraska Power and Light to develop wind power. Poof, Enron exploded, and now they are coming at it again: Buffet and Conagra. They are a tough and ruthless bunch, but so far Buffet is no match for Rockefellers. I am convinced that this is what the energy bottleneck is about, protecting regional economic power of the NE.
To: thejokker
If a 175-pound man fell into one end, he would come out the other end as 38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123 pounds of sterilized water. With Michael Moore, Jerry Nadler, and Ted Kennedy, we have enough proven reserves to supply our energy needs for decades.
To: Physicist
I think that you don't know the size of a barrel of oil. Try using forty two gallons/barrel. It works out better.
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:20:06 PM PDT
by
FreePaul
To: thejokker; All
This is the third time I've seen articles on this process posted on FR. It's good to discuss alternatives from time to time.
For all who may be interested the Changing World Technologies web site can be found here .
To: Physicist
A barrel of light Texas crude weighs 384 lbs (source). 4 billion barrels weighs 768 million tons. How are they going to turn 600 million tons of some stuff into 768 million tons of some other stuff? Where does the extra 168 million tons come from? And furthermore, the stuff they start with is mostly water, and the other stuff they end up with has essentially no water. Where does the water go, and how do they make up the deficit?But...but...but you're confusing the pipedream (or bong-dream) with facts!
As another astute observer (who must have learned arithmetic in school, so it couldn't have been a public school) pointed out in a letter to the WSJ, to replace just the ANWAR oil with turkey poo-oil, we'd need about 35 turkeys for every living American, we'd be importing more grain than we do oil now, and the resulting product would cost more per gallon than Dom Perignon.
Otherwise, there's no reason a technologically savvy nation like the USA couldn't do it!
(We 'mericans were the first and only to put a man on the moon! Why couldn't we run our cars on $250/gal turkey-poo oil?)
To: Freebird Forever
This is the third time I've seen articles on this process posted on FR.Must be about time to look for postings about the million round per second (or is it per minute) gun. It hasn't been around for several months.
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:27:36 PM PDT
by
FreePaul
To: ClaireSolt
They are a tough and ruthless bunch, but so far Buffet is no match for Rockefellers. I am convinced that this is what the energy bottleneck is about, protecting regional economic power of the NE. It's difficult to overcome a hundred year head start.
But I'd love to see it happen.
To: jasoncann
Appel now is paying $52 a ton for animal waste, That's more than half the cost (or may be, considering that there are two wildly different figures for the efficiency of tons of turkey parts per barrel of oil given in the article).
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:28:35 PM PDT
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
As PETA goes up in smoke...
Just damn.
If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:28:45 PM PDT
by
mhking
("Today, we're gonna do things the RIGHT way...")
To: FreePaul
Must be about time to look for postings about the million round per second (or is it per minute) gunCan't say as I've ever seen that one. Sounds interesting, as long as it's not an S&W.
To: AbeKrieger
He's just a little guy, imagine what one could get from a Teddy Kennedy...Adios, Saudi oil!
To: Freebird Forever
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:36:49 PM PDT
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: Sooth2222
I have accidentally written the acronym ANWAR myself.
As a well read Freeper once corrected me, it's ANWR not ANWAR.
To: mhking
um... waoh... like... my tagline is, like... prescient, duuuude.
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:39:04 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
To: r9etb
I used to think 1 barrel = 55 gallons, but that is a drum, not barrel.
I just checked and found that:
1 drum (US petroleum) = 55 gallons (US liquid)
1 barrel (federal) = 31 gallons (US liquid)
1 barrel (US liquid) = 31.5 gallons (US liquid)
1 barrel (US petroleum) = 42 gallons (US liquid)
Why do we have so many different measures?
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:49:22 PM PDT
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: joesnuffy
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:52:14 PM PDT
by
null and void
(...that no man, rich or poor, free or bond, shall buy or sell, save he that has the chip...)
To: infocats
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:53:05 PM PDT
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: R. Scott
*snrk* Look up how many 'tons' there are...
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:55:12 PM PDT
by
null and void
(...that no man, rich or poor, free or bond, shall buy or sell, save he that has the chip...)
To: thejokker
First production plant in Fargo.
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:56:50 PM PDT
by
js1138
(e unum pluribus)
To: lepton
Lots of other sources: Landfills (old and new), agricultural waste (silage, manure, etc.), forest waste (limbs, foliage), anything that goes to a rendering plant, and most importantly human waste.
Wastewater treatment plants would become energy producers.
I find it odd that no one has mentioned biodiesel yet.
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posted on
05/06/2005 3:00:16 PM PDT
by
datura
(Fix bayonets. Seal and Deport.)
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