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Who Started the Second World War?
Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | November 1991 | Richard M. Ebeling

Posted on 05/05/2005 2:13:21 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Burr5; Borges
"It is hard to avoid the conclusion that Roosevelt saw the Soviet Union, its record of terror and slaughter, its omnipotent dictatorship and despotism notwithstanding, as containing a greater promise of democracy and freedom than Great Britain. Somehow in Roosevelt's vision all the ugly was squeezed out and what was left was a system in Russia not extremely different from his own American New Deal." - Robert Nisbet, Roosevelt and Stalin: The Failed Courtship (1988)
81 posted on 05/05/2005 5:16:50 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Man will be governed by God, or by God he'll be governed")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yikes. That's worse than I thought.


82 posted on 05/05/2005 5:27:40 PM PDT by Burr5
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To: Borges
How about the 'Treaty of Versailles'?

Ding ding ding! You get an A on your final! The Treaty of Versailles set the stage for WWII.

83 posted on 05/05/2005 5:29:49 PM PDT by blu (The Pope, the Gipper and the Iron Lady...now THAT'S a trifecta!)
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To: Burr5
The Half-Century Legacy of the Yalta Conference - "While I do not believe in Communism, Russia is far better off and the world is safer with Russia under Communism than under the Czars. Stalin is a great leader, and although I deplore some of his methods, it is the only way he can safeguard his government." - FDR
84 posted on 05/05/2005 5:31:46 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Man will be governed by God, or by God he'll be governed")
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To: Ingtar
Not just the French, but Great Britain, Italy and Japan also demanded harsh reparations. Justifiably so.
85 posted on 05/05/2005 5:36:00 PM PDT by blu (The Pope, the Gipper and the Iron Lady...now THAT'S a trifecta!)
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To: Wisconsin155

" But I think the sanctions where the result of Jap aggression against U.S. ships in China."

Sorry, but the U.S. economic sanctions were about the "bigger picture". Namely, China. Japan bombed our navy in order to gain the time to consolidate their rule over the western pacific rim and then establish a credible defensive perimeter that we wouldn't want to mess with. Then they could negotiate terms. They were fools. But in my book, we picked two stupid fights in the 40s. And if you don't believe it, remember that we managed to get ourselves into TWO giant global wars that had nothing to do with each other within one week under FDR.


86 posted on 05/05/2005 5:38:34 PM PDT by Burr5
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To: Hand em their arse
"Who Started the Second World War?"

Bush??

Don't laugh! There are some out there that believe the Bush family helped the 3rd Reich get ready for war - like these folks.

87 posted on 05/05/2005 5:41:04 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (Give me heaven... or a 637!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

God, what an idiot. Thanks for that quote. He's off my "great presidents" list forever.


88 posted on 05/05/2005 5:41:17 PM PDT by Burr5
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To: BrooklynGOP

Ha! You think WWII finished it?!?!


89 posted on 05/05/2005 5:42:00 PM PDT by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
That was either an incredibly naive statement or a real clever one.

I suspect FDR was more clever than naive.

I always thought FDR was better than many on the right have portrayed him, thinking that he simply didn't see through Stalin etc.

Within the last couple of years the evidence keeps piling up that he was a knowing Commie sypathizer

90 posted on 05/05/2005 5:42:14 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
When Averell Harriman criticized FDR's betrayal of our Chinese allies at Yalta FDR responded "other matters more important, the establishment of the United Nations, for example."

FDR needed Stalin's cooperation to implement his "Global New Deal."

91 posted on 05/05/2005 5:53:26 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Man will be governed by God, or by God he'll be governed")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Who started World War II? Who knows. Who cares.

What matters most is the question: Who finished it? We all know the answer to that question.

92 posted on 05/05/2005 5:56:54 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: theDentist
"The question is: Which Bush?

Why, Prescott Bush of course! See my post #87 link.

93 posted on 05/05/2005 5:56:58 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (Give me heaven... or a 637!)
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To: Conservomax

It all started with the Gulf of Tonkin incident.


94 posted on 05/05/2005 6:03:14 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Borges

100% correct...WWII was nothing more than a continuation
of WWI.


95 posted on 05/05/2005 6:08:09 PM PDT by OregonRancher (illigitimus non carborundum)
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To: Burr5

Well he was apparently wrong about a whole bunch of things. But again he did apologize later on. He admitted it whereas many did not. And he did support Nixon for President in 1960. Apparently because he thought Nixon would be better for farmers. He had a significant background in agriculture and actually invented something in that sphere I believe.


96 posted on 05/05/2005 6:14:06 PM PDT by Borges
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To: ruiner

Cultural Marxist Dictionary definitions....

Grievance: The cause of all heinous acts committed by either people of color or non-democratic societies.

Evil: A trait that is only inherent to Capitalists, caucasions, Christians and Jews.


97 posted on 05/05/2005 6:17:40 PM PDT by The Fop (just because I'm a McCarthyite, doesn't mean you're not a Commie)
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To: OregonRancher
WWII was nothing more than a continuation of WWI.

Exactly, for Hitler crushing Western Europe, especially France was revenge for WW1.

98 posted on 05/05/2005 6:20:51 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Who started WWII?

Ask Louie Farrakhan, he'll tell you.....it was the white devils and the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS


99 posted on 05/05/2005 6:26:50 PM PDT by The Fop (just because I'm a McCarthyite, doesn't mean you're not a Commie)
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To: Burr5
Regarding Henry Wallace; "Whether he had a card in his pocket or not, he was effectively a communist."

As much as I despise Franklin Roosevelt and his policies, I have to give him credit for dumping Wallace in '44. FDR knew he was in poor health, and must have been mightily uncomfortable envisioning Wallace as the next president.

Roosevelt had the smarts to replace Wallace on the '44 ticket with Harry S Truman, a man who he (FDR) was only vaguely aware of, but a man who had proven his ability insofar as administrating policy and understanding the workings of government.

The selection of Truman is IMHO FDR's legacy. Truman was an honest no-nonsense democrat Senator who had been an artillery officer during WWI, and as such he harbored no illusions with regard to the USSR and its inclinations. He also understood the Japanese, their military discline, and their unwillingness to capitulate under any terms. That understanding was the source of his decision to use nuclear arms on Japan, a couragous act which goes unrecognized to this day by many misguided idiots.

The years immediately following WWII were critical in checking the aspirations of Stalin mentioned in this article. It was damned fortunate for the US that Harry Truman, and not Henry Wallace, sat in the Oval Office during the opening days of the Cold War.

I rank Truman as the second greatest president of the 20th century. First place goes to Theodore Roosevelt and third place goes to Ronald Reagan.

100 posted on 05/05/2005 6:27:34 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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