Posted on 05/04/2005 5:59:04 AM PDT by OESY
We're both lucky enough we don't need to work, I see. My husband planned for an early retirement all his life and I was able to retire at age 42 and count my blessings he lets me do my thing. It's a good thing we aren't married to some of the prigs around here. LOL
How long did it take you to learn Japanese?
Oh, is that right boyo? Who said that Laura Bush is a whore? I happened to have served under Governor Bush and Miss Laura as a state officer, a finer pair hasn't come down the trail, I just might take offense to that my friend. That doesn't mean however, that they are beyond criticism once in awhile, that's what keeps this nation strong.
Me thinks she just did. Im sorely disappointed in her.
She's 0 for 2.
I agree, Michelle.
1. Ephesians 5:4
Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking...
>> "walk on the wildside" <<
Wow, you must have a pretty boring life if you consider a few very old jokes a "walk on the wildside".
Spot on. You nailed it.
Not much of a swear word, but coming from Mom it was always a shock.
I had the same reaction when I heard what the First Lady said. I wasn't offended. Just surprised.
To refrain from filthiness and foolish talking and jesting because they “are not convenient” does not make good sense.
Anything “convenient” is “favorable to one’s comfort; easy to do, use or get to; causing little trouble; handy” (Webster).
But in 1611, when the King James Version was written, the word “convenient” meant that which is “fit, suitable, appropriate.”
Now that meaning is “obsolete” (Webster). So Paul was saying that filthiness and foolish talking and jesting are to be condemned because they do not “fit,” are not “suitable,” and are not “appropiate” (aneko).
Filthiness and foolish talking certainly do not “fit,” are not “suitable,” and are not “appropriate,” but what about “jesting”?
Does jesting consist of “idle words”? Jesting is “to be playful in speech and actions; to joke” (Webster).
As the word “convenient” had a different meaning 300 years ago, so did “jesting.”
Paul’s inspired word eutrapelia, translated in the KJV as “jesting,” had two meanings 300 years ago: (1) “pleasantry, humor, facetiousness” and (2) “in a bad sense, scurrility, ribaldry, low jesting” (Thayer). Facetiousness is “lightly joking” (Webster).
Scurrility is “indecent language; vulgar” (Webster). Ribaldry is “coarse joking or mocking; offensive, irreverent, or vulgar in language” (Webster).
Eutrapelia is either “wit, liveliness, politeness” or “coarse jesting, ribaldry” (GREEK DICTIONARY).
Eutrapelia was used “mostly in a good sense: ‘witticisms,’ ‘facetiousness,’ “ but “in our literature only in a bad sense, coarse jesting” (Bauer-Gingrich-Danker).
Certainly Paul used the word “in a bad sense, coarse jesting.” This means that the King James translators made a mistake in saying that Paul condemned “jesting,” a word that now only means “being playful, joking.”
Thus Paul’s use of the word did not condemn “pleasantry, humor” (Thayer), nor “wit, liveliness, politeness” (GREEK DICTIONARY), but his use of the word was to condemn coarse jesting. Words of pleasantry, humor, wit, liveliness, and politeness are not idle, useless, worthless. Solomon wrote:
A joyful heart puts a smile on the face, but pain in the heart crushes the spirit (Proverbs 15:13). A cheerful heart is good medicine, while a crushed spirit dries up the bones (Proverbs 17:22). Clean jesting, causing a laugh, is not idle. Jesting is “to be playful in speech and actions; to joke” (Webster). A joke is 1. anything said or done to arouse laughter; funny anecdote; witty, amusing remark; amusing trick played on someone. 2. something not meant to be taken seriously; thing done or said in fun (Webster). It follows therefore that no word is idle if there is a good, wholesome purpose back of it, whether serious or in fun
http://www.hevanet.com/jamoran/ChristianArticles/Articles/McCord/Idle%20Words.htm
farmer18th referred to her as both a wh@re and a slut.
Some of the other posts were removed by the mods apaprently.....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1394870/posts?page=133#133
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1394870/posts?page=129#129
To: Gabz
it's attitudes like yours that give conservatives a bad rap as being rightwing religious fanatics who wish to control everyone else's life.
Let's see now: if you think the President's wife shoudln't act like a slut before the national press corp, you are a "rightwing religious fanatic."
On the contrary, it's shallow, moral philistines like yourself who don't understand the connection between a gutter culture at the top and a welfare state at the bottom.
133 posted on 05/02/2005 1:56:21 AM EDT by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
To: Cobra64
Methodist Minister
Ah, yes, the true fountain of contemporary wisdom--Methodism, where some of the congregations have even taken to devoting communion to the Roman Goddess of wisdom. You'll have to do better than that.
If Laura dresses like a nun and talks like a slut, then what is she?
129 posted on 05/02/2005 1:26:10 AM EDT by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
WOW! You're GOOD.
Just damn. No kidding. You're spot on, in my opinion!
As for me - I thought her roast was hilarious. The cow/horse joke is as OLD AS THE HILLS. She most certainly meant the OLD joke version, where it wasn't necessary to define the sex. Maybe she had a joke writer who screwed up.
Trey and Matt's "Team America" really showed hollyweird liberals for the freaks they are. Sean Penn personally went moonbat on them
SEAN PENN RIPS 'TEAM AMERICA' CREATORS IN ANGRY MEMO **Exclusive** October 6, 2004 To Trey Parker and Matt Stone, I remember a cordial hello when you guys were beginning to be famous guys around Hollywood at some party. I remember several times getting a few giggles out of your humor. I remember not being bothered as you traded on my name among others to appear witty, above it all, and likeable to your crowd. I never mind being of service, in satire and silliness.
I do mind when anybody who doesn't have a child, doesn't have a child at war, or isn't or won't be in harm's way themselves, is encouraging that there's "no shame in not voting" "if you don't know what you're talking about" (Mr. Stone) without mentioning the shame of not knowing what your talking about, and encouraging people to know. You guys are talented young guys but alas, primarily young guys.
It's all well to joke about me or whomever you choose. Not so well, to encourage irresponsibility that will ultimately lead to the disembowelment, mutilation, exploitation, and death of innocent people throughout the world.
The vote matters to them. No one's ignorance, indcluding a couple of hip cross-dressers, is an excuse.
All best, and a sincere fvck you,
Sean Penn
P.S. Take this as a personal invitation from me to you (you can ask Dennis Miller along for the ride as well) to escort you on a trip, which I took last Christmas. We'll fly to Amman, Jordan and I'll ride with you in a (?) 12 hours through the Sunni Triangle into Fallujah and Baghdad and I'll show you around. When we return, make all the fun you want.
The video for Team America comes out soon...... 
Kim Jong in Team Amercia
It's less arogent to say "I realize you understood the intended joke, and found it juvenile, and therefore lacking in humor."
Great job, team. Time to head back to headquarters for cocktails and debriefing. :-)
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