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WITCHCRAFT NOT WELCOME County Can Ban Wiccan From Giving Invocation [ACLU alert]
ABA ^ | April 29, 2005 | TERRY CARTER

Posted on 04/29/2005 8:31:44 AM PDT by Brilliant

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It's interesting that the ACLU thinks that it's unconstitutional for Christians to pray at public gatherings, but not for witches to do so.
1 posted on 04/29/2005 8:31:46 AM PDT by Brilliant
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a member of another known as the Broom Riders Association

What Quiddich league do they play in?

2 posted on 04/29/2005 8:33:51 AM PDT by Alouette (In each and every generation they rise up to destroy us, but the Holy One, saves us from their hands)
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Wait a second, didn't the founders come here to practice witchcraft and outlaw Christianity? Don't you listen to our democratic Senators?


3 posted on 04/29/2005 8:34:16 AM PDT by marylandrepub1 (If you think it's expensive now, wait till it's free!)
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***Lawyers for Wiccan practitioner Cynthia Simpson planned to file a motion***

Lawyers? Why not just put a spell on them!


4 posted on 04/29/2005 8:37:32 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Brilliant
An incantation?
GeezLaweez, what stupidity!

Wiccans are sad, foolish, disturbed, often man-hating, damaged, pathetic women using the stupidity and ignorance of the ages to fill the huge holes in their souls.

People should be laughing at them. For that is the sum total of their "wiccanism," laughable stupidity.

5 posted on 04/29/2005 8:38:06 AM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: Brilliant

I thought Wiccans believed that nature and Earth overrule man and man's laws. Why, then, are they so concerned with a simple prayer at a local meeting?


6 posted on 04/29/2005 8:41:14 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Brilliant

Hmmm. Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof. Not allowing Wiccan convocation does not prevent free exercise. But, it does indicate something akin to aversion. Tough to say where this one will go. It'll probably boil down to not allowing a formal convocation by any religious figure, which has been the response in the past. The trouble with the ACLU is an entrenched anti-establishment attitude that goes back to the founding of that organization by, essentially, communists. Christianity plays a large establishment role in the US, so the ACLU is against it, rather than the other way around, which would be support for Wicca or any other religion that is outside of the establishment. When you get right down to it, the ACLU is antireligion. Some religions are more "revolutionary" than others, and hence more useful. But they'll all be eventually targeted.


7 posted on 04/29/2005 8:42:09 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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Wiccans are sad, foolish, disturbed, often man-hating, damaged, pathetic women using the stupidity and ignorance of the ages to fill the huge holes in their souls.

Too true. I've known a couple, and they made me look well-adjusted!
8 posted on 04/29/2005 8:43:12 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: starfish923

"People should be laughing at them. For that is the sum total of their "wiccanism," laughable stupidity."

As a Jew I guess I should say the same thing about Christians.

BTW, the US government, even our military recognizes "Wicca" as an established religion. Wiccan services are even held on military installations to include Ft. Hood.


9 posted on 04/29/2005 8:44:51 AM PDT by politicalwit (USA...A Nation of Selective Law Enforcement.)
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To: Brilliant

I got a better idea. Let the wiccan come say a "prayer" and then beat the hell out of 'em in the alley afterwords. Then they won't want to come back and the problem is solved. (just kidding of course)


10 posted on 04/29/2005 8:46:20 AM PDT by whereasandsoforth (Stamp out liberals with the big boot of truth)
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Wiccans are sad, foolish, disturbed, often man-hating, damaged, pathetic women using the stupidity and ignorance of the ages to fill the huge holes in their souls.

It's a religion. What do you expect?
11 posted on 04/29/2005 8:46:29 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Lawyers? Why not just put a spell on them!

Local radio host said "Don't pi$$ her off, she's a witch!"

This is my home county. I don't want a Wiccan praying. But since they county allows Christians, Jews and Muslims, I don't see how they can/should stop this.

12 posted on 04/29/2005 8:49:25 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Objects in this tagline are closer than they appear.)
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As with free speech, religious freedom only exists if it applies to all. This is an example of the government taking sides in a religious debate, and that cannot be allowed.


13 posted on 04/29/2005 8:58:45 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: starfish923
Wiccans are sad, foolish, disturbed, often man-hating, damaged, pathetic women using the stupidity and ignorance of the ages to fill the huge holes in their souls.

I doubt you know any Wiccans. Don't believe everything you read from fundamentalists. BTW, there are a lot of male Wiccans too.

14 posted on 04/29/2005 8:58:52 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: politicalwit
As a Jew I guess I should say the same thing about Christians.

Probably not, since many core Christian beliefs are actually Jewish beliefs.

15 posted on 04/29/2005 9:00:02 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Brilliant

Pan-thiests lost that round.


16 posted on 04/29/2005 9:00:36 AM PDT by Semper Paratus (-)
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To: Brilliant

I always confuse Wiccans with Satanism. Is there a difference ?


17 posted on 04/29/2005 9:01:37 AM PDT by John Lenin
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Wiccan services are even held on military installations to include Ft. Hood.

For Wiccans, right?

18 posted on 04/29/2005 9:11:10 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Alouette
Curling team?
19 posted on 04/29/2005 9:19:34 AM PDT by dts32041 (Two words that shouldn't be used in the same sentence Grizzly bear and violate.)
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"As with free speech, religious freedom only exists if it applies to all. This is an example of the government taking sides in a religious debate, and that cannot be allowed."

So, you beieve that the government, by not allowing this witch to participate in the invocation, is "establishing" a religion or preventing the "free exercise" thereof?

Court rulings have gone way too far to ensure that Americans are "free from religion" by forcing us to publicly acknowledge all religions, neutering the religious nature of traditional celebrations or by not allowing the public celebration of a particular religion at all.


20 posted on 04/29/2005 9:21:33 AM PDT by KeyesPlease
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