Rape Trial for Army Officer Begins in Ala. - Lt. Mike Hall is accused of raping Jennifer Dyer

Guardian ^ | April 26, 2005 | SAMIRA JAFARI

[Former Military Chick]

I have been following this case closely. In the past I posted threads on FR about this cae. Will go and put them together so folks can get up to speed on this trial, if you would like to be pinged to this trial, let me know.

[No Longer Free State]

Well, hopefully we'll get to the truth of this little matter, finally.

[SittinYonder]

Add me to the ping list, please; I'm curious to see how this progresses.

[Old Sarge]

This woman is a liar and a fraud. And now, she's carrying a gun around kids.

I am down here at Camp Shelby, since january for mobilization. This "incident" was the talk of the post. The EO Nazis - every one of them female - tried to use this as an example of what to do to male soldiers.

One brave lady O-5 who was retiring spoke up. She started in on her fellows, demanding to hear both sides. The EO Nazis shut up.

There's more to this than the Left wants us to know.

[Former Military Chick]

I have to tell you, I agree with beloved, maybe we will finally get to the truth of the matter. If she were raped well the guy should go to jail and not pick up his 200.00 and go directly to jail If however, she has lied about all of this, she should be punished, sadly this man's reputation will forever be marred and if he is guilty then that is how it should be, if he isn't, there is nothing anyone can do wipe this event away from his time in the military. February 19, 2005 Lt. Recalls Treatment After Rape Charge (Jennifer Dyer)

[LauraleeBraswell]

The Military court system is guilty until proven innocent.

[wagglebee]

Dyer has said she went public with her allegations on CBS's ``60 Minutes'' because Army investigators doubted her story. She testified that she was treated at a hospital and sequestered in a hotel for two days without access to a telephone.

It is an unfortunate truth that rape cases nearly always favor the accuser, even with all of the talk about a woman's past being drawn into the case, nearly all defendants accused of rape are convicted and in cases of "acquaintance" (date) rape there is generally no conclusive evidence -- it is just two versions of a story that a jury must weigh.

If Dyer is telling the truth, her actions seem to me to be very inconsistent with a typical rape victim. "60 Minutes" is committed to undermining President Bush, the War on Terror and the US Military -- and if it is necessary to destroy the lives and careers of one or more offices, then so be it. Even when a rape defendant is found not guilty, unless there is conclusive proof of his innocense, people will always assume he is guilty. Hall may or may not be guilty of rape, but either way his career is ruined and this episode will haunt him for life.

[duck duck goose]

If she were a victim, (not saying that she isnt, so please do not come after me) why would she be held in a hotel room for two days? A victim would not be treated that way PERIOD. You could speculate and say she was there so other witnesses could be interviewed without her getting to them. They may not have had enough to arrest her. Either way, at least all sides are being looked at. If she falsely accused him, hope she goes down. If he raped her, well he will get what is coming. This will be interesting to see how it turns out.

[duck duck goose]

Hey chick, I meant to add ALL to my post. Hey let me ask you this..arent there cameras in the hallways in the barracks for safety reasons???

[PeskyOne]

Please add me to the ping list.

[PeskyOne]

Please add me to the ping list.

[ConservativeMind]

This will hit many as extreme, but this is a risk any man takes when having sex outside of marriage.

Why can't we keep our privates in our pants, guys, until marriage?

You get what you deserve, I'm sorry to say. Including VD, pregnancy, and all the other strife.

Seek to lead a more wholesome life and you won't have left any woman with viable charges.

[Old Sarge]

You didn't get it, so I have to explain.

She didn't want to go to war, so she started whoring around - it was all over the press down here, and God I wish I had the links to show you. The sum of her activities can be best described as Conduct Unbecoming An Officer.

And she tried to take down another officer with her. Typical blame-someone-else-for-my-misdeeds.

[duck duck goose]

Hey Sarge..wanna hear something disturbing?? There is a popular production company actively pursuing a production/distribution outlet for a reality based show (not scripted) about military legal issues. What cha think about that????

[Former Military Chick]

For those who would like a bit more background, this link is quite informative of the events as it came to trial.

[x1stcav]

I would have condescendingly snickered at your Victorian attitude toward extra-marital sex by guys even a few years ago. But guess what? You're right spot on.

Now this is coming from one of the greatest swordsmen (if judged by numbers and not necessarily quality) of all time.

I'll be 60 toward the end of this year and marvel that my other persona never got me into the type of trouble that this LT finds himself in. Or for that matter, any other trouble such as disease, etc.

[conshack]

This will hit many as extreme, but this is a risk any man takes when having sex outside of marriage.

Why can't we keep our privates in our pants, guys, until marriage?

Probably for the same reason some women can't keep their pants on until marriage.
That's not the issue here anyway. This woman is a fraud and she is bent on destroying this man.

[Former Military Chick]

Old Sarge is speaking the truth on this one, and I am going back to my archives of threads I posted on FR. She lacks credibility and while I do not know all the facts, her story just does not ring true.

She has the help of left leaning organizations, which is fine but I am skeptical.


She deserves her day in court to prove her allegations, should he be found guilty then the punishment stiff if during the trial, other facts we have not heard that would lead us to her truthfulness then she should have to face the consequences.

It is always tough for me to question a rape victim. I take no pleasure in it, but, I am sure many of you know that gut feeling you get, well I have it on this one.

[Former Military Chick]

Happy to add you.