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Agencies move to enforce immigration laws
Monterey Herald ^ | 4/24/05 | Ben Fox - AP

Posted on 04/24/2005 10:42:44 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: janetgreen
If the illegals leave Santa Ana, the few American citizens that are left there might have some room to breathe.

And maybe we can finally call the place St. Ann...

81 posted on 04/24/2005 4:51:46 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park!!!)
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To: Dane
...grow food, build things, and create wealth, scumbags.

Maybe you should check the crime stats near my house where most of the rapes, stabbings, drug dealings, etc. are being perpetrated by illegal aliens.

If someone truly wants to integrate into US society to "create wealth", then let them apply legally for a work and residency visa.

82 posted on 04/24/2005 4:55:34 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: NormsRevenge
"Our goal is to get them off the street and out of the country so local resources aren't spent on these individuals," said sheriff's Lt. Margarito Robles.

Exactly! I wish we could do this in NM, but our governor Juan Jose, (aka: Bill) Richardson, thinks it's OK to allow the illegals into NM. He and Vicenti are good buddies. He's giving them driver's licenses without needing a Social Security number.

83 posted on 04/24/2005 5:08:26 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: Iscool

LOL. Love that tag line!


84 posted on 04/24/2005 5:27:59 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: LNewman; All

Excellent thread, everyone...


85 posted on 04/24/2005 5:41:10 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: Dane
"...calling people who grow food, build things, and create wealth, scumbags."

If two people sneak over our borders, take jobs at minimum wage, pay no net taxes each year, receive free health care, rental assistance, food stamps, etc., drive without insurance, force us to pay to educate their 5 kids at $10,000 to $15,000 each per year, while they're receiving a $5,000 Income Tax Credit Check yearly, they're not "creating wealth".

On the contrary, they're consuming it.

It'll cost the U.S. Taxpayers roughly $1 million dollars to support this illegal alien family for just 10 years.

Under these circumstances, anyone that refers to these illegal aliens as scumbags is being kind.

Criminal, 3rd world, illegal alien, Marxist/Socialist, scumbag, leeches would be more appropriate.

Wouldn't you agree? ;^)

86 posted on 04/24/2005 5:56:14 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!>)
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To: Sterco; Dane

I agree, Sterco.

The argument that if we stop illegal immigration the price of food will skyrocket is pure crap.

A new economic balance will arise - under Nafta that cheap labor will be used to grow vegetables and make things in Mexico, which in the end will be better for everybody. The Mexican economy will improve, thus easing the pressure for illegal migration.

What we should incourage is migration of capital and not the breaking of laws.


87 posted on 04/24/2005 6:16:38 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: 4Freedom
they're not "creating wealth" On the contrary, they're consuming it

Truth BUMP from invaded, bankrupt Mexifornia.

88 posted on 04/24/2005 6:42:52 PM PDT by janetgreen (MMP - coming to California soon!)
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To: McGavin999; LNewman; Brad's Gramma; janetgreen; Czar; Marine Inspector; shellshocked
Unlike most here, I have no objection to a guest worker system as long as it NEVER leads to citizenship.

You are dreaming. There is NO provision in the so-called guest worker program that illegals EVER go home. They get 3 year extensions until they apply for citizenship. At best it's a slow-motion amnesty.

But I think this is even a more likely scenario for what we're going to see in a few years at most:


"Fernando Ortiz was a ‘landscape engineer’ on Long Island who had demanded to be able to vote, on the basis that he had been paying state and federal taxes for ten years. Actually, he had been stopped from casting a ballot by a poll watcher who had suspected his citizenship status, and (illegally, as it turned out) demanded proof of his identity and legal qualification to vote. Ortiz had won a multi-million dollar settlement against the Republican Party of New York in the subsequent “racial profiling and ethnic intimidation” civil suit, but he did not stop there.

"Instead, with massive support from the ACLU and various Hispanic “immigrants rights” foundations, he had pressed his demand to vote all the way to the Supreme Court…and he won. The Supreme Court, in its famous 5-4 decision, ruled that negligence in securing America’s borders against illegal immigration on the part of the federal government, could not be held against “undocumented workers who played by the rules and paid their taxes,” once they were established in America—legally or not. "No taxation without representation!" was the call heard across the USA. The State of New York had sleep-walked through an aimless and desultory case for denying the vote—and citizenship—to “undocumented workers.”

"Following Ortiz v. New York, a stunned America woke up to discover that there were not only an amazing twenty two million illegal aliens hiding in plain sight across the land, but that eight million of them immediately qualified to vote. In a nation split 50-50 down party and ideological lines, these eight million new voters were recognized to be the certain majority-makers in future elections, and both parties set record lows for cravenness in pandering to their “needs.” Chief among their “needs” were liberal new family reunification laws, and these instant citizens—illegal aliens last year—began bringing the remainders of their families to the USA. Legally

"Overnight, wavering Democrat states became locks, and swing states with large Hispanic populations went solidly “blue.” The result was the recent election which had brought Gobernador Deleon to power in Nuevo Mexico, and had also brought radical Democrats to power in the White House and both houses of congress.

"Thus had come the political tsunami which swept all before it, a tidal wave triggered by an undocumented lawn maintenance worker named Fernando Ortiz."


Remember where you heard this first. The only question is when we'll see this case. The outcome is certain. If the federal government doesn't close the border, doesn't pursue illegal aliens, gives them all the trappings of citizenship (driver's licenses, schooling, medical etc) and collects their taxes....

They are sooner or later going to be given the vote by the courts.

Mark my words. Read it and weep.

89 posted on 04/24/2005 8:21:00 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: HiJinx

It's a start, bump.


90 posted on 04/24/2005 8:25:46 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #24 - Don't call it a lie, call it "changing your mind.")
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To: Travis McGee
Read it and weep.

Many Americans don't realize yet what is being forced upon us by our own treasonous leaders. They'll only pay attention when it's too late to do anything about it, when their states are as invaded as California, Arizona, Nevada and Texas are, and when they realize the HUGE bills they'll be paying to support "cheap labor", and see their states turn into Mexican colonias.

91 posted on 04/24/2005 11:06:19 PM PDT by janetgreen (MMP - coming to California soon!)
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To: janetgreen
When 8 or 10 million illegals are suddenly given full rights and the vote by the SCOTUS, middle America will finally understand the depth of the betrayal foisted on them by their Quisling leaders.

But it won't matter, it will be a "done deal" made way over the heads of average Americans.

92 posted on 04/24/2005 11:10:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well...maybe the locals will lead the way since the feds don't have the will yet........


93 posted on 04/24/2005 11:21:08 PM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: Dane
People who hire illegal aliens are breaking the law. They are scumbags. But what I would really prefer to call them is convicted felons.

L

94 posted on 04/24/2005 11:26:01 PM PDT by Lurker (Remember the Beirut Bombing; 243 dead Marines. The House of Assad and Hezbollah did it..)
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To: LNewman; Brad's Gramma; janetgreen; All
Just what we were talking about yesterday........

DATELINE There's been another shooting on a Southern California freeway _ this one in Orange County _ but police say it's too early to tell if it's related to to any of the other recent similar attacks.

A male motorist was wounded in the shooting about 1:45 this morning on the northbound Costa Mesa Freeway in Tustin. He was shot in the neck but was able to drive himself to a hospital. The man's expected to live.

Tustin Police Captain Michael Shanahan says the gunfire occurred in _ quote _ "literally the exact same spot" _ unquote _ where a fatal shooting happened within the last two months.

Authorities are trying to determine if the attacks are connected.

Two motorists were killed in recent shootings on the Harbor Freeway in Los Angeles County.

KESQ LINK

95 posted on 04/25/2005 7:31:40 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr "Damn! We’re in the middle of a race, this aint no time to be tearing (stuff) apart! Heh!")
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To: DumpsterDiver
"multicultural art work"

Is THAT what they call that crapola that is spray-painted all over southern California?? Does that include the "gang signs" too?

Those useless little gangbangers need to get real jobs, but of course they won't as long as the welfare checks keep coming...

96 posted on 04/25/2005 8:38:17 AM PDT by janetgreen (MMP - coming to California soon!)
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To: DumpsterDiver
Last night, on either side of my house, there were two competing parties both with the requisite pinatas, lots of booze and LOUD music. I finally called the cops.<<<

I know your situation. I was in a similar one about three years ago, before finally moving.

Know what used to work for me? Old Dean Martin tunes and a megaphone and stereo speakers placed outdoors. The Mexicans seem to really hate Dean Martin singing as loudly as their loco music.

I never had to fear the police, because the police did not care whether my sleep was ruined or the Mexicans sleep was ruined - they simply don't care at all. (I say whats good for the goose is double good for the gander). Of course, they did spray paint my fence several times, but around here, the CITY is responsible for removing graffiti.
97 posted on 04/25/2005 11:34:38 AM PDT by Iron Matron
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