Posted on 04/19/2005 1:38:13 PM PDT by yoely
I'm still mad that a newsjerk on Larry King's show said that Ratzinger joined the Hitler Youth because of "youthful excess" and because "everyone else was doing it". That so infuriates me!!!!! And Moron King said nothing!
Oh great now here is Mr. Objective responding again! LOL!
(Want to know my IQ? ...........I didn't think so....... :o)
OK, I was right the first time. You have sucessfully defended yourself as ignorant. Anyone who has read anything about the Nazi era knows who von Stauffenberg was. Here's a link to what the Wiesenthal Center says about him. http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/text/x31/xm3116.html (If you don't know, Simon Wiesenthal devoted his life to tracking down Nazi war criminals). Von Stauffenberg was the officer who hand carried a bomb into Hitler's headquarters and placed it at Hitler's feet in June 1944. He, along with other heros in the German Army (including Rommel), was executed.
I think you are too emotional (like a lib I might add) when it comes to religion, and you do not think. Just because someone has a different point of view does not mean they hate.
It reminds me of the Libs that say if you are against illegal immigration, then you are against immigration. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am pro "legal" immigration, and not "illegal".
Amazing post. All he went through during the war years with Hitler must have had an enormous influence on him...his and his brother's decision to become priests didn't pop up out of thin air. It's a miracle that he became Pope. Talk about the world turned upside down! Of course, the MSM is livid, but he'll survive being a target for CNN, et al.and make them look like the fools they are.
I don't think the Church is too concerned with the MSM or the "Seculist".
There's no baggage there. You're playing their game. Be not afraid.
Maybe hate was a bit too strong. Still, you seem overly agitated about Ratzinger and have connected your agitation to the fact that he's German. Why don't you wait and see what kind of pope he is instead of falling for the MSM's vitriol. Don't you see that you are playing right into their hands?
I am not even close to being too emotional (other than perhaps that I am laughing at you at the same time I am feeling pity for you)........and your comments about 'religion' are absolutely nonsensical. I said nothing about hate during this entire 'dialogue.'
And what in heaven's name was that stuff about immigration? I am tempted to ask if you are typing from some kind of institution. There wasn't a single rational word in your entire post.
As for the age, 15, maybe 16........
And if he's not a child, he certainly thinks like one, and behaves like one.
Sad, really...... He should be outside playing, rather than sitting at a computer pretending to be an adult.
A bad PR move by WHOM? It's the MSM that stirred this pot; then Cardinal Ratzinger explained what happened in a biography written years ago.
So exactly whose "PR move" is this? What the heck are you trying to say -- that the Vatican is behind these "Nazi" stories?
Then you don't know what a hero is.
If you are implying that Von Stauffenberg was try to end the Holocaust, then why did he not go after Goering or Himmler too?
Read up on the July plot. The other nazis were the responsibility of the plotters in Berlin and elsewhere. The Berlin portion of the operation was well underway, but fell apart when Hitler wasn't killed.
but I am a lot of it probably had to do with the treatment of the German 6th Army at Stalingrad and of course losing the war
More of a reaction to the landings in France than the situation in the East.
Oh please you have to come up with a better one than that.
Other heros? Hanna Reitsch. At the other end of the spectrum, the enlisted man who was ordered to murder a prisoner and who refused. (He was arrested, but released without punishment.) Since you limit it to military, we won't talk about the German women who staged a sit down strike in Berlin to free their husbands from Gestapo custody (they were successful).
Since you don't consider those who died fighting the Nazis to be heros, lets stick to those who proved their courage in more conventional ways. Skorzeny and Galland would make that list.
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